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It is amazing how China is playing both sides yet Junta couldn't do sh*t about it.

That's the silver lining in end. The junta deserve this bed they made....as do the CCP for the one they made.

This chess piece is out of play in their strategy as result for forseeable future.

The Eastern seaboard meanwhile strengthens against them (CCP). Philippines is strongly getting into the agenda now again in the arc from japan to vietnam. So there will be little relief valve for that through Burma for CCP.

Too bad for Burmese people though....and the ethnic groups that got real raw end like Rohingya. This country just looks like it will never amount to anything.

(Majority ethnic) Army being only overriding institution in multi-ethnic setup (over the time this was done) is recipe for crumbling inevitability in cycles.

BD, Thailand and NE India will have to careful about wounded animal antics and spillovers. Various forces, militias and junta itself have differing concentrations in different areas always in state of flux going forward. They still pack poison and punch, so neighbours will have to be wary....China is really only one that has something like the kokang forces to act as protection force buffer. The Thais had a certain level of it going with Karen army, but now thats all up in the air for them too. BD and India have very little on this matter...they will have to protect and plug border as best they can (more challenging for India given length of border with Burma and the tribal groups involved).
 

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Junta soldiers fled into India, where they were taken into custody. They have since been repatriated back to Burmese govt through Moreh crossing which is still under control of Junta forces.

About 50,000 civilians from Burma are estimated to have taken refuge in N.E India from the fighting so far.


 

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Junta soldiers fled into India, where they were taken into custody. They have since been repatriated back to Burmese govt through Moreh crossing which is still under control of Junta forces.

About 50,000 civilians from Burma are estimated to have taken refuge in N.E India from the fighting so far.



Hmm...the way Tatmadaw operates, I think these soldiers are gonna end up very badly. (Not that I care)
 

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More Myanmar troops fleeing rebel attacks enter India​


  • Attacks force 29 more Myanmar soldiers to flee to India
  • Junta orders officials, ex-military to prepare for emergencies
  • Pro-democracy leaders, insurgent launch "Road to Naypyitaw"
  • New Delhi expresses concern on situation close to Indian border


 

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Junta has cooperated with India a number of times in past, in flushing out anti-India separatist militias (ULFA et al) that had taken refuge in Myanmar etc....to ambushes Indian army set up (and allowing some discretion to Indian army to operate inside Burma border zones in this endeavour as well).

But it has been sporadic and at other times Junta has tolerated them or made pacts with them (for temporary security arrangement etc) sometimes to curry favour with China too.

Then there is the complex relationship of the Kachin forces with Junta, India and China, each with waxing and waning periods....in the longer past, more recent past and now "current" civil war.

I say "current" because really Myanmar has always been in a state of civil war since independence....only the intensities and compromises made varied.

So in the thick of things currently (Kachin and number of its own long term foes....have united against Junta for example), India is probably correct to use measured approach to expediently returning any armed person back to their side in Myanmar. Rather than hosting them and then that turning into a scuffle with other Myanmar people (or local Indian kinsmen) inside India.


Regd Kachin (from before the 2021 war started):
 

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Really shouldn't have sold that kilo INS sindhuvir to myanmar. We would have transfered more subs hadnt the coup never happened
 

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Other than Kachin, there are also the Chin people, who are kinfolk of the Kuki + Mizo who live mostly in two Indian states: Manipur and Mizoram. They are also found to some degree in Tripura and the CHT area of Bangladesh.


The Chin National Front (CNF), the long-standing ethnic organisation and its armed wing, the Chin National Army (CNA), thank the Indian government for sheltering the displaced people of Myanmar in Mizoram and Manipur. In an interview with ThePrint’s Karishma Hasnat, CNF vice chairman Dr. Sui Khar says he hopes India would like to see a stability of Burma.


 

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58 Myanmar border guards take refuge in Bangladesh​



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At least 58 soldiers of Myanmar's paramilitary Border Guard Police (BGP) today took refuge in Bangladesh fleeing their posts amid reports of heavy gunfights between the government troops and the rebels in the junta-run country.

"Fifty eight BGP personnel took shelter in Bangladesh throughout the day since the predawn hours. Fourteen of them crossed the border with bullet wounds and are being treated at different hospitals including health facilities in Rohingya camps," said an official familiar with the development.

He added the paramilitary soldiers were kept under their counterpart Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) custody in Cox's Bazar while the weapons they carried with them were deposited in BGB cache.

The official said many of the soldiers came to Bangladesh territory in combat uniform and weapons while others were in their plainclothes leaving as well their arms back home.

BSS obtained the photograph of the last BGP solider who crossed the border in barefoot and plainclothes carrying his rifle while the 14 others were in their combat uniform.

"The BGB informed the development to their Myanmar counterparts," said the official, preferring anonymity.

Dhaka, meanwhile, expressed concerns as the skirmishes in its borders with Myanmar was affecting Bangladesh frontlines with Road Transport Minister and Awami League General Secretary Obaidul Quader seeking Chinese intervention to deescalate the conflict in view of Beijing's close contacts with Burmese authorities.

"The internal war is their (Myanmar's) domestic concern. But when the sound of gunfights is heard in the border, naturally it creates panic in public mind. We, therefore, expected Beijing's intervention," Quader told newsmen after his meeting with the Chinese envoy.
Officials earlier said 14 BGP personnel crossed the border in predawn hours through the Ghumdhum border while a BGB spokesman in Dhaka thereafter asked journalists to await a media briefing on the development but no official briefing was made until the evening.

District administration of Bandarban, where the troubled frontier is located, closed five schools for security reasons fearing mortar shells or stray bullets to landside Bangladesh territory as the gunfights are underway on the other side of the border.

BGB asked local residents to stay indoors or move cautiously for safety while the skirmishes in southern and northern parts of Tombru, also known by the same name in Myanmar, appeared to be fiercest so far. Tombru is located in Ghumdhum union of Naikhongchhari upazila of Bandarban.

Officials said reports from other side of the border suggested army helicopters were strafing on rebel fighters escalating concerns of massive casualties.

Residents in frontier villages including local Union Parishad members said sounds of gunfights on the Myanmar side of the border on Saturday night and Sunday panicked residents in villages in the frontier.

A BSS reporter said the reported skirmishes between the government troops and the rebel Arakan Army frightened residents in several frontier Bangladesh villages as several mortar shells and bullets landed inside Bangladesh in the past several days though no casualty was reported.

"In two such latest incidents on Saturday night a bullet smashed the windshield of a battery-run three wheeler and a mortar shell hit a village house at Tombru area of Ghumdhum border but no one was wounded," a member of the local union council, the lowest local government-tier, told reporters.

Bangladesh earlier ordered an extra security vigil on border with Myanmar in view of the gunfights between the Myanmar military and the insurgent Arakan Army, which is active in the bordering Rakhine region of the country.

International media reports suggested several more insurgent groups, some forming alliance among them, are confronting the government army in several parts of Myanmar.

Bangladesh's border with Myanmar stretches 271.0 kilometres (168.4 miles), from the tri-point with India in the north, to the Bay of Bengal in the south.

Bangladesh played a critical role over a million Muslim minority Rohingyas who fled their home in Rakhine and took refuge in Bangladesh to evade persecution, particularly after a 2017 army crackdown but the current crisis visibly is little to do with the Rohingyas.

Bangladesh won praises for the handling of the world's biggest refugee crisis while Dhaka repeatedly sought their repatriation to their homeland in Rakhine saying the Rohingyas were causing economic, social, security and environmental problems.

The issue is now the subject of a United Nations genocide investigation at the International Court of Justice.



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58 Myanmar border guards take refuge in Bangladesh​



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At least 58 soldiers of Myanmar's paramilitary Border Guard Police (BGP) today took refuge in Bangladesh fleeing their posts amid reports of heavy gunfights between the government troops and the rebels in the junta-run country.

"Fifty eight BGP personnel took shelter in Bangladesh throughout the day since the predawn hours. Fourteen of them crossed the border with bullet wounds and are being treated at different hospitals including health facilities in Rohingya camps," said an official familiar with the development.

He added the paramilitary soldiers were kept under their counterpart Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) custody in Cox's Bazar while the weapons they carried with them were deposited in BGB cache.

The official said many of the soldiers came to Bangladesh territory in combat uniform and weapons while others were in their plainclothes leaving as well their arms back home.

BSS obtained the photograph of the last BGP solider who crossed the border in barefoot and plainclothes carrying his rifle while the 14 others were in their combat uniform.

"The BGB informed the development to their Myanmar counterparts," said the official, preferring anonymity.

Dhaka, meanwhile, expressed concerns as the skirmishes in its borders with Myanmar was affecting Bangladesh frontlines with Road Transport Minister and Awami League General Secretary Obaidul Quader seeking Chinese intervention to deescalate the conflict in view of Beijing's close contacts with Burmese authorities.

"The internal war is their (Myanmar's) domestic concern. But when the sound of gunfights is heard in the border, naturally it creates panic in public mind. We, therefore, expected Beijing's intervention," Quader told newsmen after his meeting with the Chinese envoy.
Officials earlier said 14 BGP personnel crossed the border in predawn hours through the Ghumdhum border while a BGB spokesman in Dhaka thereafter asked journalists to await a media briefing on the development but no official briefing was made until the evening.

District administration of Bandarban, where the troubled frontier is located, closed five schools for security reasons fearing mortar shells or stray bullets to landside Bangladesh territory as the gunfights are underway on the other side of the border.

BGB asked local residents to stay indoors or move cautiously for safety while the skirmishes in southern and northern parts of Tombru, also known by the same name in Myanmar, appeared to be fiercest so far. Tombru is located in Ghumdhum union of Naikhongchhari upazila of Bandarban.

Officials said reports from other side of the border suggested army helicopters were strafing on rebel fighters escalating concerns of massive casualties.

Residents in frontier villages including local Union Parishad members said sounds of gunfights on the Myanmar side of the border on Saturday night and Sunday panicked residents in villages in the frontier.

A BSS reporter said the reported skirmishes between the government troops and the rebel Arakan Army frightened residents in several frontier Bangladesh villages as several mortar shells and bullets landed inside Bangladesh in the past several days though no casualty was reported.

"In two such latest incidents on Saturday night a bullet smashed the windshield of a battery-run three wheeler and a mortar shell hit a village house at Tombru area of Ghumdhum border but no one was wounded," a member of the local union council, the lowest local government-tier, told reporters.

Bangladesh earlier ordered an extra security vigil on border with Myanmar in view of the gunfights between the Myanmar military and the insurgent Arakan Army, which is active in the bordering Rakhine region of the country.

International media reports suggested several more insurgent groups, some forming alliance among them, are confronting the government army in several parts of Myanmar.

Bangladesh's border with Myanmar stretches 271.0 kilometres (168.4 miles), from the tri-point with India in the north, to the Bay of Bengal in the south.

Bangladesh played a critical role over a million Muslim minority Rohingyas who fled their home in Rakhine and took refuge in Bangladesh to evade persecution, particularly after a 2017 army crackdown but the current crisis visibly is little to do with the Rohingyas.

Bangladesh won praises for the handling of the world's biggest refugee crisis while Dhaka repeatedly sought their repatriation to their homeland in Rakhine saying the Rohingyas were causing economic, social, security and environmental problems.

The issue is now the subject of a United Nations genocide investigation at the International Court of Justice.



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Bong friend of mine was saying mortars fell in/near the known hotspot area, Naikhaonchori (spelling)?

(He said) there was one civilian fatality and a number of injuries from this and about 3k Bangladesh civilians were relocated temporarily from that area.

(He said) Per interrogation a number of Burmese forces that entered BD territory (numbering about 66?) claimed to have had "no idea" they were in BD during the clash, their border posts coming under fire from rebel forces etc.


 

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