TR Naval Programs

[Strong AI]

Ibrahim Sünnetci on Twitter:

"According to the information I have received, MIDLAS has been installed on the TCG Istanbul Frigate. The TCG Istanbul is currently in the process of completing the Harbor Acceptance Tests (HAT), after which the Sea Acceptance Tests (SAT) will begin. On May 29, 2023, the TCG Istanbul Frigate is expected to be delivered to the Turkish Naval Forces Command (TNFC) on May 29, 2023, after which the sea tests will be completed and the TCG Istanbul will be delivered to the TNFC towards the end of the year."

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652225821766045696

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652225838425726976

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652662459642126343

Mr. Demir addresses the claims upon propulsion system of TCG Anadolu. He tells audience to check the construction dates.

However, i catch something and it feels uneasy; When the propulsion unit of Anadolu was delivered, Spanish Navy was conducting conceptual studies with ABB, rival of Siemens and leader of podded propeller market. Note: L61, Anadolu, Canberra runs on SiPOD made by Siemens, which is the source of the propulsion system related issues aboard both L61 and Canberra. Some "experts" point out that Anadolu runs on different propulsion system than the rest by pointing out the fact that Anadolu is equipped with diesel engines while others are diesel engines + gas turbine. Unfortunately they forget one fact: these machines are running on generator mode and has little to no effect on emerged issues, the source of the problem is the podded propeller, made by Siemens.

And i hope, Siemens has truly fixed pod related issues on L61 and Canberra and those fixes were applied on TCG Anadolu. Platform based issues were fixed on Anadolu anyway.

 

[dBSPL]

TCG Anadolu crossing the Çanakkale strait and saluting the Martyrs' Monument

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1653478110895980553

 

[Anmdt]

Two steel-producing companies, Kardemir and Erdemir located in TR has successfully developed high yield steel recipes, unrelated to each other, and produced the samples for evaluations. The production quality and samples have succeeded in presumed ranges, consistency of quality is superb in comparison to what imported earlier, for HY80 and HY100 steels. HY80 is matured and ready for production following the certification process, HY100 is yet to mature and go through certification and they both are studying the recipe for HY120-grade that will be applied on special spots of some submarines.

The companies have also commenced (earlier supplied for national projects only) to supply DH grade shipbuilding steels for naval and naval-related applications in TR and several abroad applications amid the supply crisis emerged due to Ukraine-Russia war. The steel is slightly more expensive yet provides a higher quality (in terms of consistency of the product).

Another company that better to keep unnamed as of now is focusing on production of large single piece support members that is responsible of carrying pressure loads: ring stiffeners. The production, compared to profiles used in warships has much tighter tolerances and requires special rigs that will be produced with local resources.

Gölcük Naval Shipyard is upgrading the facility and construction rings that is utilized for pressure hull sections, the primary goal is to enlarge diameter allowed within the rigs, and later making them flexible that will be adjustable according to the diameter of the pressure hull. This implies, Milden as of now, is not the only submarine within Navy's plan, there is another one likely to fill the gap of Type 1200-1400 in medium term. Milden is an upgrade to the fleet, not replacement of an aging class.

 

[Osman]

Dear Anmdt, bearing in mind our future production ability of STM 500, Milden and another sub in the class of Reis or Type 1 400, what is your projection for future sub inventory of Turkish Navy? How many submarines?

 

[Anmdt]

Spanish Navy's LHD Juan Carlos-I to be powered with ABB's Azipod - Naval News

ABB has secured a contract with Navantia to upgrade Juan Carlos I with an electrical propulsion system based on dual ABB Azipod units.

www.navalnews.com

Apparently, doesn't stonk for Siemens.


and, for us.

 

[LordAragon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656976022141583361

The latest picture of tcg istanbul, note the cenk-s radar is already installed, is that VLS modul behind the main gun? What an elegant ship she is

 

[Cabatli_TR]

TCG istanbul with Cenk-S and EW sensors

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657373253499854848

 

[Brave Janissary]

Without Sonars (we dont know real specs of hims) it looks like better than Fremms in Radar and Sensor.

 

[Test7]

TCG istanbul with Cenk-S and EW sensors

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657373253499854848

Hight resolution

 

[Brave Janissary]

I have cheap and easy air defence frigate solution for hard times.

Our 4 of 8 Gabya's is in more good condition than others. They have a good smart-s mk2 radar and 8x vls and genesis battle managment system. Also its open sea resisted and good sized ships.

Also all of us know that solution of aselsans this solution.

I advice change a mk-13 launcher with 2x6 pack siper launcher. And add akr-d block 2 behalf of mark-92 location for missile guidance. And last one we can add çakır-Rf behalf of Mark-13 Harpoons in the location of who I'm sited on pic. Çakır more smalller missile but more ranged missile than our Harpoon's . (We dont have blok 3's on this ships) Only diffrence is warhead size but on air defence concantrated ships thats doesnt problem from my site.

Search and Track Radar : Smart-s Mk2 Radar (They have long range search mode 250 km and track mode 150 km )
Fire Control Radar : Akr-d block-2
BMS : Genesis
Weapon Load :

1x 76mm
12x Siper
32x Essm
8x Çakır-Rf Anti-Ship
6x Torpedo
1x Phalanx

Doesnt need to big modernization for that. And also when ship decommisioned we can take and use him on diffrent ships.

And dont forget Even Frenchs use a Freem's in Air Defence role and they carry 32x Aster-15&30 And launch him with Herakles radar ( Fire Control radar capable version of Smart-s Mk2)

 

[Strong AI]

"We are full steam ahead in the largest serial shipbuilding programme of the world archives."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658722432973262851

 

[begturan]

"We are full steam ahead in the largest serial shipbuilding programme of the world archives."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1658722432973262851

but they are so ugly to compare with Yonca Onuk's designs, their specs and price performance must be great.

 

[UkroTurk]

advice change a mk-13 launcher

Vise versa i would recommend not to touch mk13 since you could store inside 40 TRG-300. Old Perryies would be great strike force. For sure i would add autonomous modern Point defense systems such as Gökdeniz/ER/Levent.

 

[fushkee]

Istif class makes me excited more than any other projects. I don't know but it is. I hope she will be floating in a shortest time and we'll see her in our Blue Homeland.

 

[Strong AI]

- We have successfully completed critical acceptance tests for the Mid-life Modernization Project of Preveze Class Submarines.
- We will also integrate the ADVENT-MÜREN Combat Management System for the Gür Class Submarines.

STM - Submarines Modernized With İndigenous and National Systems

www.stm.com.tr

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659162309997068290

 

[Kaan Azman]

I+ Class with some lengthening and extra VLS cells. This could be reasonable considering it can have some room for secondary capabilities like SİPER Block 1/2, GEZGİN or other stuff to be integrated to MİDLAS.

 

[Heartbang]

I+ Class with some lengthening and extra VLS cells. This could be reasonable considering it can have some room for secondary capabilities like SİPER Block 1/2, GEZGİN or other stuff to be integrated to MİDLAS. View attachment 57584

What I most wonder is the Ada+ class, in your parlance.
How are we going to shove 12 VLS cells into that hull, I have no clue.
I know some export MILGEM's handled that, but do we know how?

 

[Brave Janissary]

that kind of adding can be split ships weight balance.

One i class (8x Siper + 32x Essm/Hisar) escorted by one Gabya (8x Siper + 32x Sm-1) worst scenario solution I think . Until Tf-2000

 

[uçuyorum]

I was thinking about Urban Defense's railgun and Zumwalt the other day, and with TCG Anadolu in service, are our anti surface combat capability good enough? I was wondering if a new ship between Istif and Tf2000 should also have more anti surface capabilities, and if we could reach that with a large number of ÇAKIR instead of a long range gun. It's not the same thing but instead of 2x 10 rpm 155mm equivalent rounds (608 per ship?) at 100-200km on a single 15 ton destroyer, could we make 2-3 ships with say 16 Çakırs in addition to Atmaca against ships, could we handle the originally envisioned mission for failed Zumwalt, that is offering fire support for a landing operation form long range? With 32 VLS as well like the other proposed solutions to also ease our air defense needs