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This thread is dedicated to built, unbuilt and prototype Turkish engines of all types.

With the increased effort of Turkey to develop various domestic vehicles and missiles. Turkey has also decided to exert effort into developing engines, power packs and propulsion systems to power and propel them.

There are currently Five prominent engine manufacturers in Turkey, with the propulsion field likely to expand;

  • BMC POWER
  • TUMOSAN
  • FORD-OTOSAN
  • TEI
  • KALE AERO
* Updates occurred since Initial Post 17/12/2022 thanks to @Rodeo

BMC POWERDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment stageIllustration
TTZA
Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine​

350hp
400hp*​
Under development​
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AZRA
Inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine​
550hp
600hp*​
Under development​
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UTKU
V configured turbo diesel engine with 8 cylinders​

950hp
1000hp*​

Under development​
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BATU
V configured turbo diesel engine with 12 cylinders​
1500hp​
Under development​
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TUMOSANDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment stageIllustration
S8000-4​

Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine​

115hp​
Under development​
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S8000-6
Inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine​
175hp​
Under development​
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TMSN 5.5
Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine​
360hp​
Under development​
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TMSN 7.5
Inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine with output​
530hp​
Under development​
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TMSN V8
V configured turbo diesel engine with 8 cylinders​
750hp​
Under development​
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FORD-OTOSANDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment StageIllustration
Ecotorq​
Inline 6 cylinder turbo engine.
Marine version of the engine also exists.​
325-470hp​
In-Production​
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Duratorq​
Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel engine​
155hp​
In-Production​
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Turkish Engine IndustriesDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment StageIllustration
TEI-PD170Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel aviation engine
172hp​
In-Production​
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TEI-PD222Inline 4 cylinder turbo diesel aviation engine
220hp​
In-Production​
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TEI-PG 30/40/502 cylinder gasoline boxer type engine
30hp, 40hp and 50hp​
In-Production​
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TEI-TJ300Turbojet engine to power medium range missiles at high subsonic speeds
Thrust*
1.3Kn / 290lbf​
Under Development​
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TEI-TS1400Turbo shaft engine intended to power medium weight helicopters.
1400shp​
Under Development​
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KALE AERODescriptionPower OutputDevelopment StageIllustration
KTJ-3200​
Turbojet engine to power long range cruise missiles and anti-ship missiles
Thrust*
3.2Kn / 720lbf​
In-Production​
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TULOMSASDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment StageIllustration
TLM6​
V configured 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine to power locomotives​
1000hp​
Under Development​
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TLM 16V 185​
V configured 16 cylinder turbo diesel engine, developed to power locomotives​
2400hp​
Under Development​
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TRMOTORDescriptionPower OutputDevelopment StageIllustration
N/A​
Within a consortium of three companies (BMC Power - TAI - SSTEK). This turbofan engine is envisaged to power TFX.
Thrust*
120 kN / 27,000 lbf​
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TAECDescriptionPower OutputDevelopmentIllustration
N/A​
A joint venture company between RollsRoyce and KALE group, intended to develop an engine to power TFX.

Due to disagreements on IP rights with RollsRoyce of UK, TAEC lost to TRMOTOR in developing Turbofan engine for TFX​
N/A​
Suspended​
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...good work Combat-Master! (y)

I hope we see these power packs on land at the see and in the air, 3-5-10 years on.
 

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is there any Turkish Equivalent projects for something like an F110??
Our TFX or MMU prototypes are planned to be built using 110, I would imagine that the engine TEI is going to develop based on the core engine is going to have similar dimensions.
 

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Our TFX or MMU prototypes are planned to be built using 110, I would imagine that the engine TEI is going to develop based on the core engine is going to have similar dimensions.
is there any info about the thrust???
 

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is there any info about the thrust???

Yes, We were actually updating the thread containing information on TFX


I think you can find the necessary information there. Probably in one of the videos as I can’t see the lb thrust for twin engine in that thread atm.
 

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TEI-TJ300 Turbojet Engine Ignited!

Turkey’s first Medium Range Anti-Ship Missile Engine TEI-TJ300 was tested at TEI – TUSAŞ Engine Industries Inc. premises in Eskişehir with the participation of the Minister of Industry and Technology Mustafa VARANK. Governor of Eskişehir Erol AYYILDIZ, President of the Digital Transformation Office of the Presidency of the Republic of Turkey Ali Taha KOÇ, MPs of Eskişehir Harun KARACAN, Prof. Dr. Emine Nur GÜNAY, Metin Nurullah SAZAK, President of TÜBİTAK Hasan MANDAL and Director of TÜBİTAK SAGE Gürcan OKUMUŞ attended the ceremony as well.

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Designed and manufactured completely through indigenous and national facilities, the engine weighs less than 30 kilograms. It is the first turbojet in the world that is capable of generating a thrust of 1,300 Newton in its own thrust category and TEI Chairman & CEO Prof. Dr. Mahmut F.AKŞİT informed Minister VARANK on the engine prior to the test. Briefed shortly before the test, Minister VARANK ran the ignition system and fueled and revved up the engine. Starting with 4,500rpm (revolutions per minute), the engine’s number of revolutions was increased to 26,000rpm under control during the ignition test, with the injection of the main fuel.

Minister VARANK made a brief statement following the test and underlined the importance of the engine developed by the engineers of TEI for the defense industry. VARANK: “Today we ignited the TEI-TJ300 engine developed with the support of TÜBİTAK. These engines were designed to be employed in medium range anti-ship missiles and they could be utilized in many other platforms as well. I also witnessed the first powering of the core engine of our GÖKBEY TS1400 turboshaft engine. The chairman of TEI promised that they would be delivering the engine this year to TUSAŞ. Following the delivery, TUSAŞ will be launching the engine integration activities. This engine, at the same time, is the symbol of a critical development as it displays the progress of our defense industry. Despite its physical size, the TEI-TJ300 engine generates a thrust of 1,300 Newton and produces nearly 400 horsepower. The most critical infrastructure regarding the power systems of air vehicles, in particular, has already been established at TEI in our country and this infrastructure is producing products rapidly. And because of this, which we are proud of, we are capable of independently developing many products of foreign restrictions.” Stating that all software, equipment and test systems of the engine test infrastructure were also developed by TEI through indigenous and national facilities, Minister VARANK added, “A country may manufacture a product, but if the testing environment needs to be supplied from a foreign country and in the event that no country makes this technology available, then even the test of the product could not be achieved.”

VARANK and the accompanying delegation posed for photographs in front of the engine and the big poster of the new medium range anti-ship missile.

Giving brief information on the development process of the engine, Prof. Dr. AKŞİT said, “The engine which we are standing in front of is in fact the first engine that we manufactured and powered, the engine that we powered today at the test cell is the second engine we manufactured. We ran the first engine in February, yet could not hold this ceremony due to the measures adopted as part of COVID-19 pandemic. We will be manufacturing five engines for testing purposes this year. This is an engine completely designed by the engineers of TEI and it is comprised of only off-the-shelf components that could be procured anywhere. These are standard cables, spark plugs, etc. We are indigenously manufacturing most of the parts in Turkey. Gür Metal supported us significantly in casting. We had certain additive manufacturing parts produced at the R&D center of Sabancı University. All remaining parts were manufactured here.”

Minister of Industry and Technology VARANK then powered the engine of GÖKBEY Helicopter TS1400 in the testing environment. The core of this engine had been successfully powered previously. T700-TEI-701D engines will be powering T-70 helicopters and TEI conducts the indigenous and serial production of the engines (two engines per month). Minister VARANK closely examined 6 of these engines that are ready for delivery and was informed on the developments by TEI Chairman & CEO AKŞİT. AKŞİT said, “We have already delivered eight of these serial production engines. We have six left and two engines are about to be completed. Current local content rate of these engines is around 50%. The local content rate decreases to this level because we procure the gearbox from the supplier. Even the combustion cell and the core engine are being manufactured by TEI.”

Minister VARANK was informed again by TEI Chairman & CEO Prof. Dr. Mahmut F.AKŞİT on 5 TEI-PD170 engines that were manufactured by TEI through serial production for the ANKA and AKSUNGUR platforms which are ready for delivery, and the engine block which has been produced indigenously for this engine for the first time.

VARANK then successfully conducted the final control test of a TF33 engine which is maintained by TEI that powers the NATO AWACS aircraft and concluded his visit at TEI’s Eskişehir premises.

 

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I wish TJ300 had been through a live test already. I wish the PD engines had been tested on UAVs too.
 

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I wish TJ300 had been through a live test already. I wish the PD engines had been tested on UAVs too.

Yeah, we know that PD-170 has been tested on Anka UAV. Soon we can see Aksungur flying with the PD-222.
 
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Inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel engine
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I haven't included EcoBlue Engine, as it is co-developed with Ford-England - But Ford Otosan was involved in the development of that engine too.
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Thanks, good chart, only the missing ones.

1. TEI TJ400, PG115, TJ35, TJ90, TP38
2. Ship engine of TAIS Motor
3. Electric motors that Aselsan continues to operate for automobiles, buses, trams, trains, ships and submarines.
 
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Thanks, good chart, only the missing ones.

1. TEI TJ400, PG115, TJ35, TJ90, TP38
2. Ship engine operation of TAIS Motor
3. Electric motors that Aselsan continues to operate for automobiles, buses, trams, trains, ships and submarines.

What ship engine are TAI working on ? I thought it was tümosan that was involved there and on vehicles ?
 

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