TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[TheInsider]

Curious if the 8 prototypes of Kaan will be converted to production grade and delivered to users once development ends or stay in house for some purpose.

Some might be converted but I don't expect the first 3 prototypes to be converted.

 

[Merzifonlu]

An understandable development. As far as I understand, the Kaan was designed a bit large due to concerns that the subsystems would take up too much space. When it becomes clear that these subsystems will not take up that much space, the Kaan will be redesigned.

 

[Baryshx]

As Kaan flies and data comes in, there will be more changes.

 

[DBdev]

NGAD and Chinese 6th gen look much bigger than KAAN without actual official specs.

So how are TUSAS, Kotil going to claim that they are working on upgrading KAAN to 6th gen fighter when they make KAAN even smaller not bigger to accommodate several tonnes of heavy RAM panels, large hypersonic turbojet+ramjet CC engines, laser weapons etc?

 

[uçuyorum]

NGAD and Chinese 6th gen look much bigger than KAAN without actual official specs.

So how are TUSAS, Kotil going to claim that they are working on upgrading KAAN to 6th gen fighter when they make KAAN even smaller not bigger to accommodate several tonnes of heavy RAM panels, large hypersonic turbojet+ramjet CC engines, laser weapons etc?

They won't do those things on that frame.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Please stay on topic.
All off topic posts are deleted and will attract warning points.

 

[Quasar]

TAI purchased a second-hand (2015) Bombardier 6000 business jet with N10HD tail registration from a US company to use as a "test-bed" in the KAAN MMU/TF-X Program.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1764263187464028409

 

[Huelague]

I expect 19m length, some changes on ridiculous high canopy and engine design (nozzle) and much more speed.

 

[Sanchez]

TAI purchased a second-hand (2015) Bombardier 6000 business jet with N10HD tail registration from a US company RANGEFLYERS INC ? to use as a "test-bed" in the KAAN MMU/TF-X Program.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1764263187464028409

I remember the detractors... "We don't need no flying test bed, we have Akıncı"...

 

[Afif]

I remember the detractors... "We don't need no flying test bed, we have Akıncı"...

Damn it....you are not supposed to remember that.

Jokes aside, it is really surprising some people thought Akinci was good enough for this.

 

[what]

Stay on topic, and saying you're not throwing all religious minority / ethnicity X into the same bucket but most of them - guess what, that is still racist or sectarianism.

 

[Oublious]

Kaan now in TV series...

 

[Radonsider]

Ngl they did a really cool shot of the aircraft

Kaan now in TV series...

 

[Huelague]

Ngl they did a really cool shot of the aircraft

"We are one of five..."
One of four ...god damn!

 

[BalkanTurk90]

"We are one of five..."
One of four ...god damn!

perhaps they put Japan and it is really a country that should put at top 5 . S korea did the aircfraft with alot of help from US so its out but if succes to do itself will be top 6 i belive for 15 years at least 10 countries will build 5 gen fighter

 

[Radonsider]

perhaps they put Japan and it is really a country that should put at top 5 . S korea did the aircfraft with alot of help from US so its out but if succes to do itself will be top 6 i belive for 15 years at least 10 countries will build 5 gen fighter

Kf-21 is not 5th gen

 

[Windchime]

S korea did the aircfraft with alot of help from US

A lot of help my ass, some forum members here should learn how to not talk about stuff they don't exactly know much about.

 

[Isbara]

A lot of help my ass, some forum members here should learn how to not talk about stuff they don't exactly know much about.

We have saying in "Turkey, People' mouth are not a pochette to shrink".
Everyone has an opinion either they have a portion of knowledge about the matter they speak or not..

BTW,
Congratulations mate. You've become a moderator.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

A lot of help my ass, some forum members here should learn how to not talk about stuff they don't exactly know much about.

Bro take it easy , there is no need for big brain to understand that USA want u to develop 5 gen and can give u the tech even free since u are allies agaist china , same with Taiwan . And both of US and S korea have big 00000 problems with each other the complete opposite with Turkiye which US support terrorists ypg to create terror country and devide Turkish land and even desteoyed our economy from closse 1 trillion in 2013 even now after 11 years we reach again 1.15 trillion .
Even President Trump itself said he wipl destroy our economy just because we catch a spy prist working with pkk.
- ( The remaining 20% was provided by domestic and foreign companies.[13]: 18  Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) won the production bid, and partnered with Lockheed Martin for technological support.
- (Lockheed Martin agreed to transfer two dozen F-35A technologies as part of a purchase deal to S.korea.
-While even we pay money for f35 US dont deliver them .

-(AESA radar was co-developed with Hanwha Systems under the leadership of the ADD.[68][69] Elta Systems helped to test the prototype hardware)

- Saab provided technical advice to LIG Nex1, which develops Multi Function Radar ]

-IRST is based on the processor unit (PU) designed by Hanwha Systems and a Leonardo sensor]

-US aerospace contractor Texstars was selected by KAI to develop canopy and windshield transparencies for KF-X.

+ 6 other major western companies contribute heavily to build kf 21 .
I love S korea , we dont have any problem but that is reality . And i hope u distance from USA even u dont have any geo-political fight will US better to be indepedent than ass licker of USA .

 

[Windchime]

We have saying in "Turkey, People' mouth are not a pochette to shrink".
Everyone has an opinion either they have a portion of knowledge about the matter they speak or not..

BTW,
Congratulations mate. You've become a moderator.

That's why my moderation of Korean section always work against censorship. Whenever some idiot comes to the section to post some loads of crap, I never delete them nor ban them since that is not what I think I should unilaterally choose to do.

That doesn't mean that I wouldn't say anything and leave things as is. I set guidelines and organize the section, and very much willingly engage in fights to refute bold, or outright false claims.

Moreover, telling some people to speak once they have enough knowledge is not stopping them from having opinions. Everyone could have opinions, but opinions only have grounds when based on right amount of knowledge to support it.

Bro take it easy , there is no need for big brain to understand that USA want u to develop 5 gen and can give u the tech even free since u are allies agaist china , same with Taiwan . And both of US and S korea have big 00000 problems with each other the complete opposite with Turkiye which US support terrorists ypg to create terror country and devide Turkish land and even desteoyed our economy from closse 1 trillion in 2013 even now after 11 years we reach again 1.15 trillion .
Even President Trump itself said he wipl destroy our economy just because we catch a spy prist working with pkk.
- ( The remaining 20% was provided by domestic and foreign companies.[13]: 18  Korean Aerospace Industries (KAI) won the production bid, and partnered with Lockheed Martin for technological support.
- (Lockheed Martin agreed to transfer two dozen F-35A technologies as part of a purchase deal to S.korea.
-While even we pay money for f35 US dont deliver them .

-(AESA radar was co-developed with Hanwha Systems under the leadership of the ADD.[68][69] Elta Systems helped to test the prototype hardware)

- Saab provided technical advice to LIG Nex1, which develops Multi Function Radar ]

-IRST is based on the processor unit (PU) designed by Hanwha Systems and a Leonardo sensor]

-US aerospace contractor Texstars was selected by KAI to develop canopy and windshield transparencies for KF-X.

+ 6 other major western companies contribute heavily to build kf 21 .
I love S korea , we dont have any problem but that is reality . And i hope u distance from USA even u dont have any geo-political fight will US better to be indepedent than ass licker of USA .

If by "help" you mean that US companies are participating in the program as subcontractors, I could only say that's just common practice. LM is part of the program since that was what the F-X program required the bidders to offer as an offset. They are fulfilling their obligations as a contractor, and that obligations were always take or leave.

If you want this to call it "help", then TUSAS and other Turkish contractors ain't free from it either, considering all the offset deals included in previous Peace Onyx programs. The difference between "foreign suppliers because it makes sense" and "because there's no other choice" must be distinguished.

Most importantly, when most important flight and mission critical components and software are sourced within Korea, and some especially because it is impossible to source from US or other countries due to sensitivity of said technology, you don't call that "a lot of help".