No, it is the logical consequence. After 3 comes 4. Same goes with our Fighter jet project.No idea, İ also wonder if there is ANKA-4. İt happened Urban Legend
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No, it is the logical consequence. After 3 comes 4. Same goes with our Fighter jet project.No idea, İ also wonder if there is ANKA-4. İt happened Urban Legend
Yeah, we pinky promised not to use the F-16s we buy from them in the deal but I wonder what did we say about other F-16s we have... Or F-4s... Or all kinds of drones... Do pinky promises have fine prints?
It doesn't matter what you and I think. For what it is worth we may think both wrong.I don't think they're working on Anka 4, and if they are, it's at a very early concept stage in terms of gathering ideas and feedback from the current Anka 3.
But to already have the preliminary design here, and how much payload it can carry etc. I doubt it.
From what I know AN/ALQ 254 (V1) Viper Shield doesn't have pulse-to-pulse interoperability with AN/APG-83 SABR this is one of the reasons why USAF chose AN/ALQ 257 IVEWS over Viper Sheild.Not only IVEWS, but L3harris's AN/ALQ-254 (V1) has both of those advantages.
It is a built in system.
It is in complete hermony with APG-83.
The US Congress decided to approve a deal with Turkey to sell it 40 new and modernize existing F-16 fighters.
The American Embassy in Ankara reported this on the social network X.
“This week's decision by Congress to approve Turkey's acquisition of 40 new and 79 upgraded F-16 aircraft is a major step forward. The Turkish F-16 fleet is critical for NATO forces in terms of ensuring future interoperability between allies,” the embassy quoted the head of the diplomatic mission, Jeffrey Flake, as saying.
Nope. At any point they can still make a new law with 2/3 majority blocking the sale, well after first few aircraft are even delivered to Turkey. If US gov and parties want to exert pressure, say against a Syria operation, they still can. To clarify though, they can always do this. Doesn't mean they will do it.So are the F16 in our pocket now?
Which is borderline impossible btw, neither party is getting that big of a majority without something drastically changing and bipartisanship between GOP and DNC is all but gone.with 2/3 majority blocking the sale
Eh, all blockages we got from the congress in the last 5 years have always been bipartizan. If there is political will, they can do it. Our job is to remove that political will, so diplomacy.bipartisanship between GOP and DNC is all but gone.
They did it with F35.Eh, all blockages we got from the congress in the last 5 years have always been bipartizan. If there is political will, they can do it. Our job is to remove that political will, so diplomacy.
Eh, all blockages we got from the congress in the last 5 years have always been bipartizan. If there is political will, they can do it. Our job is to remove that political will, so diplomacy.
So are the F16 in our pocket now?
How will the projec go after the approval from the congres?
in pocked for 23 billiion dollar is not something to feel pround
I have compared Turkish Viper upgrade with Greece and they have real poor program. They don't have Legion pod maybe it was not avaible. They don't have IVEWS but ASPIS.
Although the F-16V process coincided with NATO's Scandinavian expansion, another important issue that has been overshadowed in the Turkish media is that Iran has started to conduct joint exercises with China in the region and that Russian Su-35 deliveries will begin in 2023. Although there are of course many other reasons, but it can be assumed as one of the big factors that these developments on NATO's eastern flank have been instrumental in softening the resistance created by senators who have become toys in the hands of congressional lobbyists.
If we look at the issue from the perspective of air force current/short term positions and -ASAP type- procurement planning, one of opportunity attracts my attention more: As we know, the list of ammunition notified to the congress includes both the new block AGM-88Bs and the AGM-88E AARGM order, which includes advanced active millimeter-wave seeker features that are developed with Italy. Thus, AARGM will enter the TAF inventory. It has an important update that allows the missile to continue tracking the target with determination even if the radar is turned off to get rid of the missile lock. In Viper squadrons, AARGM will be integrated with AN/ALQ-257 IVEWS and AN/APG-83 SABR on the electronic side.
However, there is another powerful SEAD/DEAD configuration paired with AARGMs: Eurofighter EK, which is also include Sweden Saab's Arexis Electronic Warfare (EW) suite, and which includes the CAPTOR E AESA radar and all these package is expected to replace the Tornado ECR.
We see many embargo decisions being lifted currently. Sweden, followed by Canada as latest examples but general picture seems broader than. With the US approval of the Viper, the only left stumbling is Germany. Personally, I think that this stubborn will be partially lifted, even if only in a narrow scope. I believe that the warm messages of the last days by german politicis are also aimed at preparing this environment. For Germany, NATO is not the only issue, but more importantly, there is an EU's future that declared its intention a week ago to provide a financing of up to 300 billion euros for the stronger integration of Central Asia into the EU's energy security and trade.
The fact that Germany is blocking this sale when the UK side is so willing to do so, I think, is becoming an increasingly critical issue in shaping the future of German-Turkish relations. And I think the UK is pursuing a win-in-every-situation strategy. But there is only one way in which Germany can win. It seems that Air Force has reached AARGM to prevent any vulnerability until the AKBABA, MURAD, MEH POD/IS solution is in place. While even the US sees it as a strategic issue to meet on minimum commonalities and secure the alliance border, Germany's alone and foot dragging position without a serious supporter is pushing relations permanent fracture and it is really nothing but nonsense. Verin amk T4'leri...
"Ministry of National Defence sources said that the official congressional notification for the procurement of 40 F-16 Block-70 and Viper Modernization of 79 F-16 aircraft and various other materials for the F-16 procurement and modernization process and use and the F-35 program was made by the US administration on January 26, 2024, and the congressional approval process regarding our requests was completed on February 11, 2024.Now it's time for negotiations if they haven't already did those during the last 2.5 years. Exact number and type of systems to be sold, offset deals, and possible license production etc will be negotiated now. Can take a few weeks to months.