I knew that Erdo would have lost in the end since Erdo would be going against the US wishes; but it is way too quickly for Gods sake and the ambiguity hurts ffs
and let me guess anyone who points out what a failure it is is demonised as secularist, or a CHP supporter or someone who hates Islam? Turkey may be done for. Eventually it moves into a theocratic dictatorship, it becomes so economically and socially weak that the outsider eventually breaks her up.
Tbh, Erdo will lose either way; it isnt because Sweden is strong or whatever but because it is what the US wants!Why is everyone getting their knickers in a twist over a memorandum of understanding? Turkiye hasn’t signed on the most important dotted lines yet. This Feels more like a PR stunt to appease all the slacked-jawed-yokels and holy-than-thou types on both sides via the media. I reckon there’s plenty to play out. Also, let’s not underestimate the EU & US bastardry going on behind the scenes before shitting on Tayyip. Appreciate that many don’t like him but the criticism is a bit premature imho.
It's literally impossible for Turkey to demand that. NATO membership is binding, once you're in, you're in. In order for Turkey to be able to revoke Finland and Sweden's membership, you'd have to essentially change the legal structure of NATO itself, which would also massively backfire on Turkey because it would expose you to the possibility of being expelled from NATO as well.I expected a mechanism that allows Turkey to pull the plug at any time on them should they revert course.
It's literally impossible for Turkey to demand that. NATO membership is binding, once you're in, you're in. In order for Turkey to be able to revoke Finland and Sweden's membership, you'd have to essentially change the legal structure of NATO itself, which would also massively backfire on Turkey because it would expose you to the possibility of being expelled from NATO as well.
Again, this clown show has done absolutely nothing except destroy Turkey's image even further. Turkey should have been discussing this stuff behind closed doors but Erdogan wanted to play "tough leader" and decided to posture for the Turkish public by making Turkey look even worse to everyone else in the world. He hasn't even managed to get Finland and Sweden to agree on YPG and the "arms embargo" was apparently not even in force anymore.
OPTICS. MATTER. Turkey desperately needs some charismatic leaders with good diplomatic acumen. Erdogan has all the charisma of an angry drunk.
Tbh, Erdo will lose either way; it isnt because Sweden is strong or whatever but because it is what the US wants!
With this shitty MoU, Turkey will be forced to remove its veto; the moment Sweden joins NATO, expect a big middle finger from them towards Turkey and it isnt because Sweden is strong but because they have the support of papa US which owns literally all Med East states (aside from Israel) by the balls
When Sweden wanted to join NATO, Erdo stood up against it (which is the right thing to do) but then the US must have pressured Erdo one way or another behind the scenes. The same scenario applied in Syria, whenever Erdo does something that may benefit Turkey in the long run or reduce damage in the long run, the US intervenes to stop it..... PERIOD! Turkey is way too weak, contrary to what others think, and as long as Turkey is energy dependent, expect it to continue kissing ass*s
The picture says it all, look at Erdogan face, this isnt the face of a victor but the face of some1 who did something he doesnt wanna do because he was threatened from behind the scenes
Shitty MoU, I swear
AgreedIts ridiculous to claim victory but it seems everybody was turning against us.
Basically we were alone lots of bs propaganda of how we are hostile or helping Russia.
Erdogan should have kept the circus longer so sweden and finland keep on begging for Nato.
If only the Russians hit Helinski.
Lets not forget we are outsiders to nato. Once we get nukes and enough firepower time to go alone and forge your destiny.
half of so called greeks are hellenized arnavites.
Muslim albanians in greece got genocided by orthodoxesAnybody who was orthodox christian was basically called Greek and anybody who was Catholic were called Latin ehile Muslims were called Turks. I think this was in Albania. It was easy for Orthodox Christian Albanians to be hellenised to the religion as they were called Greek. Orthodox Christianity the religious language was Greek.
Muslim albanians in greece got genocided by orthodoxes