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think this was more likely to be Russia/SAA as they use GRAD rockets a lot.


Which would explain why Turkey has not said much about the constant, increasing amounts of shellling from Russia/SAA towards Idlib or blamed them. SDF, they can complain about on social media though, the usual YPG/PKK.

Turkey needs to equip the Syrian rebels with the same capabilities as the Palestinian factions in Gaza. Cheap and easy to manufacture rockets and kamikaze drones using COTS components. For each and every bomb that gets dropped on them, they fire a rocket at whoever hit them.

They could for example simplify the TOROS 230/260 with fixed fins and simpler solid-fuel mixture, give the rebels some Chinese (lathe) machines and install the rockets on trucks and in underground launching pits. With this in place Turkey can relegate responsibilty of retaliation to the rebels.

Turkey needs to drastically improve its poor asymmetric warfare strategy and tactics. Otherwise they'll get outmaneuvered by Iran and Russia.

Not going to happen. Turkey already prevents the rebels from directly attacking Assad and gave up large land in Idlib for Russia. Turkey is not there for the rebels, only to prevent refugees + take out PKK/YPG/SDF. It would also lead to escalation with PKK being armed with heavy weapons.
 
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Aselsan STR counter-battery radar can minimize attacks like this as response time will lower to the point where threats will not have enough time to relocate. It will give us the upper hand in this domain.
 

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The attacker is PKK/YPG/SDF whatever you want to call them. Of course, it is done with Russian permission and blessing. This is a massage from PKK/YPG/SDG to Biden to show that the US isn't the only option for them. This is also a message from Russia to Turkiye. I can create a big problem for you if you deal with the US.
 

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Of course, it is done with Russian permission and blessing. This is a massage from PKK/YPG/SDG to Biden to show that the US isn't the only option for them. This is also a message from Russia to Turkiye. I can create a big problem for you if you deal with the US.

Hence:

Turkey needs to equip the Syrian rebels with the same capabilities as the Palestinian factions in Gaza. Cheap and easy to manufacture rockets and kamikaze drones using COTS components. For each and every bomb that gets dropped on them, they fire a rocket at whoever hit them.

They could for example simplify the TOROS 230/260 with fixed fins and simpler solid-fuel mixture, give the rebels some Chinese (lathe) machines and install the rockets on trucks and in underground launching pits. With this in place Turkey can relegate responsibility of retaliation to the rebels.

Turkey needs to drastically improve its poor asymmetric warfare strategy and tactics. Otherwise they'll get outmaneuvered by Iran and Russia.
 

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That is the consequences of one party ruling as AKP did. If you had a broad coalition you’d have aligned your politics. But instead you’ve pushed te other parties far to the opposit side. That’s called polarization.

Well we need some proper AD systems and just mass produce them for the heck of it. We need to establish Layered defence and conduct strikes on SDF/YPG everywhere.
 

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Matter is not the politics. Matter is homeland. Whether you can overcome the problems or AKP. Always said that this is wrong those are bad. Come and show how to do. Continiously complaining everything as though nothing is true... Please calm down and let us unite.
 

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This Syrian situation can't be solved before we destroy Erdogan's mafia regime. Erdogan and his circle look at situation for money making via smuggling.

Only solution is glassing bashar al assads palace and doing a operation against the ypg.
 

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That is the consequences of one party ruling as AKP did. If you had a broad coalition you’d have aligned your politics. But instead you’ve pushed te other parties far to the opposit side. That’s called polarization.

Well we need some proper AD systems and just mass produce them for the heck of it. We need to establish Layered defence and conduct strikes on SDF/YPG everywhere.
Coalition never works in Turkish history.
 

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Coalition never works in Turkish history.
Not true. Ecevit, Turkes, Erbakan joined hands on Cyprus operation.

When you are making politics affecting the entire nations external relations coalition is important because you don’t want to end up using TSK as an extension for your personal ego.

E.g. RTE asked for support from CHP when we faced an external crises.
 
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The attacker is PKK/YPG/SDF whatever you want to call them. Of course, it is done with Russian permission and blessing. This is a massage from PKK/YPG/SDG to Biden to show that the US isn't the only option for them. This is also a message from Russia to Turkiye. I can create a big problem for you if you deal with the US.

Could be but the other reason I think it is SAA is the double tap. It was accurate fire on the same position, then a second strike as rescuers were arriving. I don't think the YPG have this capability. This is something Russia/SAA do a lot as well. As for why, probably to damage relations between USA and Turkey further.
Only solution is glassing bashar al assads palace and doing a operation against the ypg.

One can hope
 
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Matter is not the politics. Matter is homeland. Whether you can overcome the problems or AKP. Always said that this is wrong those are bad. Come and show how to do. Continiously complaining everything as though nothing is true... Please calm down and let us unite.
Turkish people can't unite, when president of this country doing everything to disintegrate the country. Swearing at Ataturk, swearing at people, doing everything to polarize the country.

We can't find any solution before we get rid of him.
 

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You are expecting too much thing from paid fighters.

Proxies have to be useful them being clowns make the job even harder.

They spent more time fighting each other than fighting the assad regime or the pkk/ypg.
 

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Turkish people can't unite, when president of this country doing everything to disintegrate the country. Swearing at Ataturk, swearing at people, doing everything to polarize the country.

We can't find any solution before we get rid of him.
This is not peaceful way of solution. The only way is to respect to democratic elections result and then walk all together for the common national targets.
 

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You seriously believe internal politics will solve an external problem.

Hahaha you are more deluded than I thought.
At this point they just want lower exchange rate and easy life(economic wise) and to reach that goal they are ready to surrender Gulenists.
 

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