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Pan Arabism has been a disaster for the Magreb.

Crazy how Pan Arabism has made the Arabs and Amazighs hate each other so much. Every North African Arab has an Amazigh ancestor while an Amazigh has an Arab ancestor.

Retarded how it pitted both groups against each other.
For hole maghreb region or you refering to libya?
 

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In morocco we dont have this problem. Everyone is calm with each other. you find some berbers that are like pro berbers, but thats it. I remember years ago i read an article on how mossad was trying to make conflict between the rif and arabs.
 

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Turkey to cooperate with Iraq, Libya in fight against terror financing​


Turkey will cooperate with Iraq and Libya to fight against financing of the terrorism and money laundering, according to Official Gazette published on Saturday.

A memorandum of understanding (MoU) between Turkey's Financial Crimes Investigation Board (MASAK) and Iraq's Anti-Money Laundering and Combating the Financing of Terrorism (AML/CFT) was put into force.

An agreement between MASAK and the Central Bank of Libya and Libyan Financial Information Unit, on cooperation in exchange of financial intelligence on money laundering, related crimes and financing of terrorism, also came into force.
 

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Libya's Joint Military Commission holds meeting on future plan​

BY DAILY SABAH WITH AA​

ISTANBUL AFRICA
OCT 07, 2021 8:08 AM GMT+3
Jan Kubis, then-United Nation representative for Afghanistan speaks during a joint press conference at the Independent Election Commission office in Kabul, Afghanistan, July 13, 2014. (AP File Photo)
Jan Kubis, then-United Nation representative for Afghanistan speaks during a joint press conference at the Independent Election Commission office in Kabul, Afghanistan, July 13, 2014. (AP File Photo)



Libya's Joint Military Commission held a meeting in Geneva Wednesday to discuss devising a comprehensive action plan for the withdrawal of mercenaries, foreign forces and foreign fighters from the country.

The U.N. Support Mission in Libya (UNSMIL) facilitated the meeting.

The 5+5 Joint Military Commission is made up of five senior military officers from the Libyan government and five chosen by putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar.

"As always, your task is bigger than its military and security aspects; your task has a direct impact on the overall developments in the country, on regaining its sovereignty, stability, security, and unity," said U.N. Special Envoy on Libya Jan Kubis.

"Everyone understands how critical this meeting is for the sake of the country. Everyone understands that if you will manage to come together and agree on such an action plan, you will be sending a signal, not only to the political leaders and institutions in the country but a signal of hope also to your people," Kubis added.

Following the 2020 cease-fire agreement, then Special Envoy for Libya Stephanie Williams had said: "The parties agreed that all military units and armed groups on the frontlines shall return to their camps.

"This shall be accompanied by the departure of all mercenaries and foreign fighters from all Libyan territories – land, air, and sea – within a maximum period of three months from today."

Last week, Foreign Minister Najla Mangoush said some foreign mercenaries have started leaving the country.

"The reports are correct. There is a very modest start," Mangoush said at a news conference in Kuwait when asked whether some foreign fighters had been removed.

Libya's warring sides, backed by regional powers, remain entrenched with allied foreign mercenaries along front lines in defiance of a cease-fire agreement.

Any more significant withdrawal of foreign mercenaries has appeared far off amid arguments over the role of regional forces allied to each side and stumbles in efforts to agree on ground rules for a national election.

There has been little peace or security in Libya since the 2011 NATO-backed uprising that ousted Moammar Gadhafi. The country split between the warring eastern and western factions in 2014.

Eastern forces were backed by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Russia and Egypt. The previous government in Tripoli, in the west, which was recognized by the United Nations, was supported by Turkey.

Foreign mercenaries and arms have poured into the country since Haftar launched his offensive, with Russia and the UAE serving as the putschist general's top suppliers. According to the U.N., there are currently 20,000 foreign forces and/or mercenaries left in Libya.

The Russian Wagner Group, which is owned by businessperson Yevgeny Prigozhin, a figure close to Russian President Vladimir Putin, is known as one of the main groups that sent mercenaries to fight in Libya.

Most of the foreign forces are concentrated around Sirte at Jufra airbase held by Haftar's forces 500 kilometers (300 miles) south of Tripoli and further west in al-Watiya.

In June, the United States Africa Command (AFRICOM) revealed that 2,000 Russian mercenaries from the Wagner Group had been operating alongside Haftar forces.

A U.N. report on Sudan released in January 2020 also said many Arabs from the war-weary region of Darfur were fighting as "individual mercenaries" alongside warring Libyan parties.

 

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Libyan rivals agree on pullout of mercenaries to unify country​

BY DAILY SABAH WITH AP​

ANKARA AFRICA
OCT 10, 2021 3:10 PM GMT+3
Fighters loyal to Libya's internationally recognized government are seen after regaining control over the city, in Tripoli, Libya, June 4, 2020. (Reuters)
Fighters loyal to Libya's internationally recognized government are seen after regaining control over the city, in Tripoli, Libya, June 4, 2020. (Reuters)



Libya’s rival sides reached an initial agreement on the withdrawal of foreign fighters and mercenaries from the North African nation, the United Nations said. It is a key step toward unifying the violence-wracked country.

The dispute over mercenaries and foreign fighters has long been an obstacle, particularly ahead of Libya's landmark general elections due in December.

Libya has been engulfed in chaos since a NATO-backed uprising toppled longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi in 2011. The oil-rich country was for years split between rival governments – one based in the capital of Tripoli and the other in the eastern part of the country. Each side is backed by different foreign powers and militia groups.

The U.N. mission mediating between the rivals said a 10-member joint military commission, with five representatives from each side, signed a “gradual and balanced” withdrawal deal Friday, at the end of three days of talks facilitated by the U.N. in Geneva.

The plan would be “the cornerstone for the gradual, balanced and sequenced process of withdrawal” of mercenaries and foreign forces, the mission said.

Jan Kubis, the U.N. special envoy for Libya, welcomed the move as “another breakthrough achievement.”

Libya's split came to the forefront in 2019, when putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar, allied with the east-based administration, launched an offensive to take Tripoli from the U.N.-supported government in the country's capital.

Haftar was backed by Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Russia and France. But, his 14-month campaign and march on Tripoli ultimately failed in June 2020, after Turkey sent troops to help the U.N.-supported administration, which also had the backing of Qatar and Italy.

After the fighting largely stalemated, subsequent U.N.-sponsored peace talks brought about a cease-fire last October and installed an interim government that is expected to lead the country into the December elections. The cease-fire deal also included the departure of foreign forces and mercenaries within three months – something that was never implemented.

Friday’s deal “creates a positive momentum that should be built upon to move forward toward a stable and democratic stage, including through the holding of free, credible and transparent national elections on Dec. 24, with results accepted by all,” Kubis said.

The sides said they would now go back to discuss this with their supporter-base and concerned international parties “to support the implementation of this plan and the respect of Libya’s sovereignty.”

The deal also called for the deployment of U.N. observers to monitor the cease-fire before the implementation of the withdrawal plan.

In December, then U.N. acting envoy for Libya, Stephanie Williams, estimated that there have been at least 20,000 foreign fighters and mercenaries in Libya over the past few years, including Russians, Syrians, Sudanese and Chadians.

Though the agreement on mercenaries is seen as a step forward, earlier this month, Libyan lawmakers in the east dealt a setback to the peace process by voting to reschedule the parliamentary elections for January, a month later.

It wasn't immediately clear how the lawmakers' move would translate into a postponement of the vote.

 

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There are much more important problems to solve in Libya, but instead they focus on pulling out mercenaries.

I think only the Libyan-Turkish side would commit, so Haftar can invade West Libya again wirh more Wagners.
 

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There are much more important problems to solve in Libya, but instead they focus on pulling out mercenaries.

I think only the Libyan-Turkish side would commit, so Haftar can invade West Libya again wirh more Wagners.
Withdrawing will most likely happen step by step, each side will withdraw a %, that would make it quite fair. Though I know as long as one part doesn't want to give up advantage it won't work.
 
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New crisis in Libya: They rebelled against the Prime Minister​

Deputy Prime Minister Hussein al-Katrani, who represents the eastern region in the cabinet of the Libyan Government of National Accord (UMH), and some ministers stated that Prime Minister Abdulhamid Dibeybe did not fulfill his responsibilities.​

11 October 2021 03:17
New crisis in Libya: They rebelled against the Prime Minister


Some government officials representing the eastern region of Libya, Cyrenaica, gathered under the leadership of First Deputy Prime Minister Katrani in the city of Benghazi, which is under the control of Khalifa Haftar, the leader of the armed forces in the east.

In the statement made by the group, it was stated that the GNA Prime Ministry "could not fulfill its national and historical responsibilities, pursue the dictatorial form of government and personal calculations, and also failed to manage political differences".

In the statement, it was stated that the Prime Ministry did not comply with the roadmap envisaged in the political agreement in the country, and it was claimed that it "did not adhere to the principles of unification of (state) institutions and fair distribution of power between regions".

According to the news of AA; The statement also added, "We condemn the Prime Minister's insistence on not appointing a defense minister, that he still carries out this task himself, and that he does not take the necessary steps to determine a name." statements were included.

As a result of the 75-member Libyan Political Dialogue Forum, elected by the United Nations (UN) Libya Support Mission (UNSMIL), representing different political and social segments of Libya, on February 5, in Geneva, as a result of the voting held in Geneva, Muhammed will be appointed as the Chairman of the interim Presidential Council until the elections scheduled for the end of the year. Al-Menfi was also elected as the Prime Minister of UBH, Abdulhamid Dibeybe.

While the UBH cabinet was determined to represent the three regions in Libya (Tripolitania in the west, Cyrenaica in the west and Fezzan in the south), Prime Minister Dibeybe, who was elected from Tripolitania, was the First Deputy of the Prime Minister, Hüseyin el-Katrani, representing Cyrenaica, and Ramazan, the Second Deputy, representing Fezzan. Al-Hasnavi is running it.

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Interesting that a MoD hasn't been appointed. Perhaps he should consider appointing Muammer Ghaddafi's son for the post, if Haftar is running for office having Ghaddafi's son could cause some serious blow :)

Personally I think Ghaddafi's son should stay out of politics, but you never know.
 

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Withdrawing will most likely happen step by step, each side will withdraw a %, that would make it quite fair. Though I know as long as one part doesn't want to give up advantage it won't work.

There is no reason whatsoever for Turkey to withdraw. The Turkish presence saved the government from a warlord thief. It shouldnt even be open to debate. Its a trick.
 

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There is no reason whatsoever for Turkey to withdraw. The Turkish presence saved the government from a warlord thief. It shouldnt even be open to debate. Its a trick.
No the Mercenaries. TSK got a G2G deal to train LAF, so of course we're staying :)
 

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Well at least give the money to the people instead of hogging it and misusing it :)
Hahahahahhahahahahah
Nice, the Arab mentality never fails to appease me
Btw, they did the same thing in Egypt where you would get a nice cash in gift or electric appliances when you vote for Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi (Egyptian President) in the voting booth and not skip the elections
This mentality is one of the reasons why Arabs will always be on the bottom of the food chain
Just hope that the libyans arent dumb enough to take the bait; though I really doubt it
 

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Hahahahahhahahahahah
Nice, the Arab mentality never fails to appease me
Btw, they did the same thing in Egypt where you would get a nice cash in gift or electric appliances when you vote for Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi (Egyptian President) in the voting booth and not skip the elections
This mentality is one of the reasons why Arabs will always be on the bottom of the food chain
Just hope that the libyans arent dumb enough to take the bait; though I really doubt it
I actually think the idea had merits. Give people money. And if lawlesness exists those people will be robbed by criminals or mercenaries. It could raise emnity.
 

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Haftar's forces block PM Dbeibah's visit to Libya's Ghat​

BY DAILY SABAH WITH AA​

ISTANBUL AFRICA
OCT 13, 2021 8:19 AM GMT+3
Putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar gestures as he speaks during Independence Day celebrations in Benghazi, Libya Dec.24, 2020. (Reuters File Photo)
Putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar gestures as he speaks during Independence Day celebrations in Benghazi, Libya Dec.24, 2020. (Reuters File Photo)


Forces loyal to putschist General Khalifa Haftar obstructed Libya's interim Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibah's visit to the city of Ghat, a lawmaker said Tuesday.

Nasr Youssef, who represents Ghat in the parliament, told Anadolu Agency that the pro-Haftar militia prevented the visit, citing lack of "prior coordination."

The lawmaker slammed the militiamen's actions and urged locals "to take a serious stand to secure the interests of the city."

He said Dbeibah's visit was aimed at studying the city's needs and addressing the challenges facing its residents.

Ghat is controlled by Haftar's forces.

There was no comment on the lawmaker's claims from the Libyan authorities and the visit was not officially announced.

Libya has been in turmoil for a decade, with the last several years seeing a war between forces backing rival governments based in the east and west, supported by regional powers, foreign fighters and mercenaries. Russia, France, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have been some of the biggest supporters of putschist Gen. Khalifa Haftar, while Turkey backed the internationally recognized Government of National Accord (GNA) in the west.

Last October's cease-fire between rival eastern and western governments, after U.N.-hosted talks, led to a transitional government taking office in March to usher the country towards elections at the end of this year.

However, warlord Haftar still acts independently of the legitimate government, leads an armed militia that controls vast areas, and calls himself the "Commander-in-Chief of the Libyan National Army," putting him at odds with the presidency council.

In September, Haftar announced he was suspending his military activities, a step that could lead to his candidacy in elections later this year.

In a statement, Haftar said he had named an interim replacement as head of the self-proclaimed Libyan National Army (LNA) until Dec. 24, the date of the legislative and presidential vote.

Temporarily elevating his chief-of-staff to the post "appears to be the informal announcement of his intention to run for president," Libya analyst Emadeddin Badi said in a tweet.

Also last month, Parliamentary speaker Aguila Saleh ratified legislation governing the presidential ballot and which critics say bypassed due process to favor his ally Haftar.

 
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