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No Turks are not racist. You don't know what racism is. No Turk claims he/she is superior to some other people because of his/her DNA or claims superiority because of being a Turk. That is what Europeans/orientalists do (even in this age)

Hating Greeks or Armenians doesn't mean you are a racist. Claiming you are superior because of your DNA and because you are a Turk is racism(or claiming a specific race is inferior).

Racism does not have to mean racial or ethnic superiority can also be political.

Think of tribalism or belonging to a team.

I think humans by nature are racist anyway no matter how much we love to deny it. Humans are tribal by nature.

Even if you dont see the refugees or immigrants as racially inferior you still oppose them because they are a threat to the society's fabric.

Turkish identity has always been ethnic the reason why we did retarded civil nationalism bs just to get Non Turks to live in the country.

People can speak Turkish or even get Turkish citizenship it does not make them Turkish.

Also if a Turkish women marries a Non Turk man. The children are not Turkish no matter what bs people tell me. If a Turkish man has children with a non Turkish women the children are still considered Turkish because being Turkish carries over from the Dad not the mom. Jewish race is the opposite to be considered Jew your mother has to be Jewish.

Turkish people lived in Germany for decades even today they are not accepted as Germans. Same story in Japan no matter how well you intergrate into the society you will always be considered a dirty gaijin.

Usa and Australia are different since born from colonial settler societies and lots immigrants and refugees coming into the country. Even if the USA and Australia had racial based policies it had lots of people coming in today its really different as anybody can be a citizen. Because the real ethnic americans are the native americans while the real ethnic australians are the Australian aboriginals.

Anybody can be American and Australian. But you can never be Turkish, German, Italian, Spanish, French or whatever because nations have already built their ethnic identities.
 

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Numerous accounts of Turkish women marrying non Turks in the end the children become assmiliated into the fathers culture.

Now look at this a Turkish man marries a Non Turkish women the wife and children overtime become Turkish due to the father.

In otther words not just a demographic time bomb your country is in the more you allow your women to marry outsiders the more your women and their children will be assmiliated into the husbands culture.

People can deny this all they want. I live in Australia I seen it second hand myself. So many Turkish women marrying Non Turks only to end up assmiliated to the husband culture.

My family friend who is Turkish married a Chilean woman. Guess what the wife is speaking Turkish and children were given Turkish names. Thats how it should be.

In the end always marry your own people because its easier plus you dont have to deal with culture shocks. Its not racist to prefer your own people but if you marry a Non Turk it should be men not women doing it.
 

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Racism does not have to mean racial or ethnic superiority can also be political.

Think of tribalism or belonging to a team.

I think humans by nature are racist anyway no matter how much we love to deny it. Humans are tribal by nature.

Even if you dont see the refugees or immigrants as racially inferior you still oppose them because they are a threat to the society's fabric.

Turkish identity has always been ethnic the reason why we did retarded civil nationalism bs just to get Non Turks to live in the country.

People can speak Turkish or even get Turkish citizenship it does not make them Turkish.

Also if a Turkish women marries a Non Turk man. The children are not Turkish no matter what bs people tell me. If a Turkish man has children with a non Turkish women the children are still considered Turkish because being Turkish carries over from the Dad not the mom. Jewish race is the opposite to be considered Jew your mother has to be Jewish.

Turkish people lived in Germany for decades even today they are not accepted as Germans. Same story in Japan no matter how well you intergrate into the society you will always be considered a dirty gaijin.

Usa and Australia are different since born from colonial settler societies and lots immigrants and refugees coming into the country. Even if the USA and Australia had racial based policies it had lots of people coming in today its really different as anybody can be a citizen. Because the real ethnic americans are the native americans while the real ethnic australians are the Australian aboriginals.

Anybody can be American and Australian. But you can never be Turkish, German, Italian, Spanish, French or whatever because nations have already built their ethnic identities.
I disagree it is called a political/ideological hate crime, not racism, and opposing immigrants is neither a hate crime nor racism.

The Turkish homeland is the private property of Turkish citizens. Turkish citizens can't be forced to share their private property with the citizens of other nations. That is simply what sovereignty is.
 
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I disagree it is called a political/ideological hate crime, not racism, and opposing immigrants is neither a hate crime nor racism.

The Turkish homeland is the private property of Turkish citizens. Turkish citizens can't be forced to share their private property with the citizens of other nations.

I just proved my point. Its tribalism at the end of the day.
 

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But you are all from the same religion...Why there is so much of noise for such issues?

A) Turkish republic was not founded on religion

B) Religion is one of many identities in people.... so there is no automatic 100% smoothness by just sharing religion in some way

C) This is a specific bunch of a population (illegals etc) so they have already broken the law, yet abusing things past that....why would shared religion be excuse?


Turkey needs strong borders and rule of law.....like any other country.
 

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Turkish identity is pretty unique, we are very nationalistic, militaristic, we have our own version(s) of Islam and the role it plays in day 2 day life is, even if politicians and popular series would like to make you believe its otherwise, lower and lower. Secularism is alive in the people.

But all that doesnt matter, in what country or region is it acceptable to film girls, you have to be a special kind of moron if you think thats ok and that you can do that in Turkey. Swift justice will usually follow, either from our fierce women or bystanders.
 

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Turkish identity is pretty unique, we are very nationalistic, militaristic, we have our own version(s) of Islam and the role it plays in day 2 day life is, even if politicians and popular series would like to make you believe its otherwise, lower and lower. Secularism is alive in the people.

But all that doesnt matter, in what country or region is it acceptable to film girls, you have to be a special kind of moron if you think thats ok and that you can do that in Turkey. Swift justice will usually follow, either from our fierce women or bystanders.

Turks are protective of their women no matter what.

Because Turkiye is a secular country a lot of people believe they can do whatever they want. Only to find out Turks are not pushovers.
 

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But you are all from the same religion...Why there is so much of noise for such issues?

Islam is a religion while Muslim is a follower.

Islamic World spans from Morocco to Indonesia. People make this mistake thinking its a unified region where the people are the same ignoring lots of cultures and ethnic groups.

India is not a part of the Islamic world technically but in a sense it is actually because of Muslim rule also how Indian culture made its way into the Islamic world. Also Muslims played a role in influencing India's culture.

You have diverse groups of Turks, Arabs, Malays, Bosniaks, Albanians, Amazighs, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Indians, Bengalis you name it.

I think people keep on mixing the Islamic world with the Arab world. Both different.

Turks, Arabs and the Persians have always had a natural rivalry in the control of the Islamic world.

There is a saying that the Turks are the soldiers/warriors of the Islamic world while the Arabs are the religious scholars while the Persians are the scientists.
 

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I just proved my point. Its tribalism at the end of the day.


I understand where you are coming from but you need to stop projecting western definitions of racism and race relations to Turkey.

Right now Pakistanis are projecting there own insecurities, that they are being discriminated because they are brown or not white enough, that is simply not the case in Turkey. It is funny coming from Pakistanis where fairness of skin tone is seen as a blessing and skin whitening products have a huge market. They seem to think it is "secular Turks" behind this outrage lol lots of copium.

Anyhow this is a cultural cohesion problem no one in Turkey gives a f about ethnic background or tone of skin.
 

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People, enough with the "ethnicity this, ethnicity that".

Just agree that illegals are illegals and Turkey's borders need to be protected. Achieves the exact same effect and gets your point across without jumping into a whole concerning discussion about reducing entire nations to a bunch of unflattering stereotypes.
 

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Islam is a religion while Muslim is a follower.

Islamic World spans from Morocco to Indonesia. People make this mistake thinking its a unified region where the people are the same ignoring lots of cultures and ethnic groups.

India is not a part of the Islamic world technically but in a sense it is actually because of Muslim rule also how Indian culture made its way into the Islamic world. Also Muslims played a role in influencing India's culture.

You have diverse groups of Turks, Arabs, Malays, Bosniaks, Albanians, Amazighs, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Indians, Bengalis you name it.

I think people keep on mixing the Islamic world with the Arab world. Both different.

Turks, Arabs and the Persians have always had a natural rivalry in the control of the Islamic world.

There is a saying that the Turks are the soldiers/warriors of the Islamic world while the Arabs are the religious scholars while the Persians are the scientists.
I know that , Arabs did invade indian subcontinent but they never succeeded.
It was only when Turks came in 11th century that Islam could properly make inroads in india.
 

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List of banned items which Pakistan imports. Expect more Pakistanis now.
 

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"Atatürk and the Republic of Turkey were heavily insulted under the news of Atatürk and 19 May shared on the official Facebook page of the TRT Arabi channel broadcasting in Arabic. TRT did not interfere with the insults, all of which were made in Arabic."
General Arab populations in general dont like Ataturk very much; that is a well-known fact
Idk why you are surprised?
 

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They shouldn't come into Turkey then we don't like em nor want them here.
Hm..... it is all about stability mate
The West never likes Muslims in general but the muslims and arabs do still flock to it because of stability
Nothing u can do about that since this is life

Sooner or later a major immigrant influx from Egypt will occur so do be prepared for that
 
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