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Usa's white population in a census has fallen for the first time.

Is this a thing to come??

Low fertility rates plus mass migration means the decline of the majority.

A Developed country means low fertility rates.

 

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As the world globalises a lot of people are giving up nationalism along with religion for cosmopolitanism and atheism.

 

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EU plans extra €3bn for Turkey to manage refugees​

Syrian refugees arriving in Turkey, which will receive more funding from the EU to look after the people it shelters. AP

Tim Stickings

Jun 25, 2021
The EU announced plans on Friday to increase its funding for Turkey to look after Syrian refugees as the bloc’s leaders hailed an improvement in relations with Ankara.

Brussels plans to give Turkey an extra €3 billion ($3.6bn) over the next three years to help manage the millions of refugees on its territory.

It adds to the €6bn offered to Turkey under a 2016 deal, in which Ankara agreed to guard Europe's borders after the previous year's refugee crisis.

Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission, said Europe wanted the funds to improve the social and economic conditions of migrants in Turkey rather than go towards “plain, pure emergency assistance”.

“These refugees have been living for years in the region and they need a perspective for the coming years,” she said.

“It is now 10 years into the Syrian conflict and the region still carries the lion’s share of the burden, and it is in our collective European interest to protect the refugees and support their hosts.”

Another €2.2bn in EU funds will go to Lebanon and Jordan to support Syrian refugees who live in those countries.

The package was approved by EU leaders at a European Council summit held on Thursday and Friday, with full details to be worked out by the Commission.

Speaking after the summit, Ms von der Leyen welcomed an improvement in relations with Ankara after a stormy period last year.


“Overall the relations with Turkey have improved recently,” she said.

“There is a de-escalation in the Eastern Mediterranean, there are talks between Turkey and Greece and that’s a good starting point.”

But there was little to no progress on Cyprus, she said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the EU would continue to work on improving its customs arrangement with Turkey.


“We have seen an improvement of the situation in the Mediterranean Sea,” she said. “Of course, we expect further constructive behaviour from Turkey.”

Cool reaction from Ankara​

Turkey reacted coolly to the migration plan, which it described as a way to “ensure the EU’s own peace and security”.

“Reducing co-operation on migration to a financial dimension is a big delusion,” the Turkish Foreign Ministry said.

It called for greater co-operation between Turkey and the EU and a review of the 2016 deal, echoing a call by Germany's Foreign Minister Heiko Maas this week.

The 2016 pact has been criticised by human rights groups who say Turkey is not safe for refugees and migrants.

A dispute erupted last year after Turkey opened its border and allowed thousands of people to enter Greece.

An EU communique said preparatory work was under way for co-operation with Turkey on issues such as climate change and counterterrorism.

The council said it expected Turkey to “contribute positively to the resolution of regional crises”.

The withdrawal of Turkish forces from Libya is a sticking point in the country’s peace process, which is expected to conclude with elections this year.

The EU called on Friday for the “withdrawal without delay of all foreign forces and mercenaries”.

Leaders of the 27 EU nations also discussed the economic recovery from Covid-19, calling for efforts to boost global production of vaccines.

Brussels hailed the introduction of an EU-wide digital health pass as a step towards resuming travel across Europe.

But fears over the rise of the Delta variant prompted Ms Merkel to recommend tougher restrictions on countries such as Britain, where the strain is spreading.

Berlin wants EU countries to follow its lead by ordering British travellers into quarantine to stem the growth of the variant.

“We must do everything to prevent a fourth wave,” Ms Merkel said.

EU plans extra €3bn for Turkey to manage refugees

Leaders hail improved relations with Ankara at Brussels summit

www.thenationalnews.com

 

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Turkish Border Security right now

 

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EU plans extra €3bn for Turkey to manage refugees​

Syrian refugees arriving in Turkey, which will receive more funding from the EU to look after the people it shelters. AP

Tim Stickings

Jun 25, 2021
The EU announced plans on Friday to increase its funding for Turkey to look after Syrian refugees as the bloc’s leaders hailed an improvement in relations with Ankara.

Brussels plans to give Turkey an extra €3 billion ($3.6bn) over the next three years to help manage the millions of refugees on its territory.

It adds to the €6bn offered to Turkey under a 2016 deal, in which Ankara agreed to guard Europe's borders after the previous year's refugee crisis.

Ursula von der Leyen, the President of the European Commission, said Europe wanted the funds to improve the social and economic conditions of migrants in Turkey rather than go towards “plain, pure emergency assistance”.

“These refugees have been living for years in the region and they need a perspective for the coming years,” she said.

“It is now 10 years into the Syrian conflict and the region still carries the lion’s share of the burden, and it is in our collective European interest to protect the refugees and support their hosts.”

Another €2.2bn in EU funds will go to Lebanon and Jordan to support Syrian refugees who live in those countries.

The package was approved by EU leaders at a European Council summit held on Thursday and Friday, with full details to be worked out by the Commission.

Speaking after the summit, Ms von der Leyen welcomed an improvement in relations with Ankara after a stormy period last year.


“Overall the relations with Turkey have improved recently,” she said.

“There is a de-escalation in the Eastern Mediterranean, there are talks between Turkey and Greece and that’s a good starting point.”

But there was little to no progress on Cyprus, she said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the EU would continue to work on improving its customs arrangement with Turkey.


“We have seen an improvement of the situation in the Mediterranean Sea,” she said. “Of course, we expect further constructive behaviour from Turkey.”

Cool reaction from Ankara​

Turkey reacted coolly to the migration plan, which it described as a way to “ensure the EU’s own peace and security”.

“Reducing co-operation on migration to a financial dimension is a big delusion,” the Turkish Foreign Ministry said.

It called for greater co-operation between Turkey and the EU and a review of the 2016 deal, echoing a call by Germany's Foreign Minister Heiko Maas this week.

The 2016 pact has been criticised by human rights groups who say Turkey is not safe for refugees and migrants.

A dispute erupted last year after Turkey opened its border and allowed thousands of people to enter Greece.

An EU communique said preparatory work was under way for co-operation with Turkey on issues such as climate change and counterterrorism.

The council said it expected Turkey to “contribute positively to the resolution of regional crises”.

The withdrawal of Turkish forces from Libya is a sticking point in the country’s peace process, which is expected to conclude with elections this year.

The EU called on Friday for the “withdrawal without delay of all foreign forces and mercenaries”.

Leaders of the 27 EU nations also discussed the economic recovery from Covid-19, calling for efforts to boost global production of vaccines.

Brussels hailed the introduction of an EU-wide digital health pass as a step towards resuming travel across Europe.

But fears over the rise of the Delta variant prompted Ms Merkel to recommend tougher restrictions on countries such as Britain, where the strain is spreading.

Berlin wants EU countries to follow its lead by ordering British travellers into quarantine to stem the growth of the variant.

“We must do everything to prevent a fourth wave,” Ms Merkel said.

EU plans extra €3bn for Turkey to manage refugees

Leaders hail improved relations with Ankara at Brussels summit

www.thenationalnews.com

LMAO, this is quite literally the EU trying to bribe Turkey not to say "screw it" and stop holding the refugees back.

It's not even because the EU is incapable of policing its own borders. They just know that their border security doesn't have even the restraint of Turkish border security, so Bulgarians, Italians and Greeks won't even bother detaining the migrants, they'll just shoot them or throw them back into the sea, which is going to create a PR nightmare for the EU countries.

 

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Notice how the Europeans are like this to the Turks.

They are all brown and Muslim.

The the Europeans lose their shit when we put them all in the same basket

Hail Evropa and the "White Race"

 

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Remember the Wignuts and their photos all they ever did was post pictures of Blonde white women with blue eyes walking in the wheatfields saying preserve your race

 

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Who does it better Erdogan or the Far Right Wignuts of Europe

 

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LMAO, this is quite literally the EU trying to bribe Turkey not to say "screw it" and stop holding the refugees back.

It's not even because the EU is incapable of policing its own borders. They just know that their border security doesn't have even the restraint of Turkish border security, so Bulgarians, Italians and Greeks won't even bother detaining the migrants, they'll just shoot them or throw them back into the sea, which is going to create a PR nightmare for the EU countries.

Southern Europeans, Balkaners and Eastern Europeans are not hypocrites.

While Western and Northern Europe are.

Seriously sending the refugees to Northern Europe is a win-win for all of us. Let these refugees go to the Scandanavian utopias.

 

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Notice how the Europeans are like this to the Turks.

They are all brown and Muslim.

The the Europeans lose their shit when we put them all in the same basket

Hail Evropa and the "White Race"

It depends. The ones are mostly like this are the ones who really cling to the Crusader "Europe under attack!" mentality, who think that the world is like Lord of the Rings and their dopey selves are the last line of defense against the savage orc brown hordes. Then there are others, who think that Turkey is fine but should strive to be more like Europe and less like those darn, dirty Ayrab countries.

Eastern Europeans, curiously enough, seem a bit less prone to this mentality despite being idealized as the bastion of White Identity by Western idiots, probably because they actually live next door to these hordes and in some cases have even been on the receiving end of Western racism (example - Russians, who, despite being portrayed as some European ideal by weirdos who want to settle down in Moscow to bang some blonde Natashas, is probably one of the more relaxed countries when it comes to Asians and Middle-Easterners and were also on the receiving end of the Nazis' ethnic cleansing ideology).

Mind you, I'm not saying that Russians can't be assholes too, they absolutely can but their form of discrimination is mostly rooted in the "we ruled over all these lands and now they are getting uppity again" belief rather than the outright siege mentality that racist Westerners have.

Or maybe I'm misreading Russians completely. I don't think so, I do come from a country that was under Russian rule of one form or another for almost 200 years.

 

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Southern Europeans, Balkaners and Eastern Europeans are not hypocrites.

While Western and Northern Europe are.

Seriously sending the refugees to Northern Europe is a win-win for all of us. Let these refugees go to the Scandanavian utopias.

Scandinavians are actually fairly nice and I don't wish them harm. Ideally, they should be sent back to Afghanistan and Syria or tossed back to Iran but if you want to screw over Europe, I'd recommend France.

 

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Scandinavians are actually fairly nice and I don't wish them harm. Ideally, they should be sent back to Afghanistan and Syria or tossed back to Iran but if you want to screw over Europe, I'd recommend France.

They support pkk and supported sanctions against us.

Fck them all.

Seriously all non Turks are a threat. I put this here. There is no equal our enemies are not just Arabs, Kurds or Greeks. Its the whole world.

Remember the motto its us against the world.

 

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I hope I dont get banned just for saying this.

Wake up. If not dont bother saying Turkun Baska Dostu yoktur.

 

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You can be friends with anybody.

But realise this when it comes to politics we all eat each other up.

Europeans, Americans, Arabs, Kurds, Chinese and Africans all care about themselves. Dont have your interets at their heart.

Why should we care? Always put your people first.

You cant take away tribalism. Everybody wants to put their tribe as the top dog.

Dont delude yourselves with sayings like we are one ummah or we are one human race.

I live in Australia which is the most multicultural country on the planet you can even tell people dont like each other.

For goodness sake white people even enacted the white policy australia just to perserve their race which meant you cant get into australia if you were not white.

I know im acting like a/hole. But just dont delude yourselves. This also includes me. I once those deluded ummah ummah supporters.

Study geopolitics and study history well. It opens up your mind.

 

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Dont mean im closed to pragmatism.

Turkish foreogn policy should always be pragmatic and realpolitik like bismark

Populism regardless if its erdogan or the opposition needs to die off also once erdogan is gone this populism needs die off.

Also I dont want to see the Ottomans and Mustafa Kemal Ataturks legacies being dashed or used just for votes or for populist crap.

Let them rest in peace and leave them alone. They did their deeds and left their legacies.

 

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Süper güc olacaktik ama süper göc olmayi tercih ettik...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425521485364535306

 

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Army dog finds new home with slain Turkish soldier’s family

It was an emotional moment for the Akdal family when Atmaca walked into their courtyard. A mine detection dog, Atmaca, survived an attack where his human...

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Heart warming story.

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1427522581079502865

Man this actually has me thinking.

This is actually a realist approach. When it comes to refugees we have sympathy for the old, weak, disabled, women and children who fled as Turks its our duty to protect them and feed them. But when it comes to able bodied men fleeing there is no ounce of sympathy whatsoever.

Embedded in the culture and the religion along with the mentality.

 

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US denies Erdoğan-Biden deal on Afghan refugees - Türkiye News

The United States Embassy in Ankara has denied allegations regarding a secret agreement between President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and U.S. President Joe Biden over Afghan refugees.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

I wonder if that also covers a deal between Turkey and US on Afghan refugees ? It's mincing words, but considering how US can cooperate with Terrorists just because they change name it's important to ask all these questions.

 

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Turkish security forces on watch to prevent Afghan migration wave​

BY UĞUR YILDIRIM​

VAN DIPLOMACY
AUG 20, 2021 10:31 AM GMT+3

Turkish security forces patrol the eastern border with Iran, Van, Turkey, Aug. 19, 2021. (Sabah Photo)


Turkish security forces continue to patrol 24/7 to prevent a new influx of illegal Afghan migrants after the Taliban's takeover of the country. Turkey's eastern border with Iran is protected by the tightened measures, including a modular wall, observation posts and trenches, which are all are supported by the latest technology.

Nearly total mobilization on the Iranian border has been initiated to prevent illegal crossings. The Turkish Armed Forces (TSK), connected to the Defense Ministry, do not allow any illegal foreign elements near the borderline, bolstered by the slogan of "the border is honor." Thousands of Police Special Operations (PÖH) and gendarmerie teams, connected to the Interior Ministry, are also patrolling just behind the border.

On the borderline, culverts and river beds where illegal migrants can hide are also searched thoroughly. In an around-the-clock effort, the security forces of the Defense Ministry and the Interior Ministry diligently work to prevent irregular migration on the Van-Iran border.

The security wall between the eastern provinces of Iğdır and Ağrı was completed to prevent illegal crossings. The modular wall work on Van's border with Iran continues. When the wall, which will extend to the Doğubayazıt line of Ağrı and the Yüksekova line of Hakkari, is completed, there will be a 295-kilometer (183-mile) wall on the Iranian border of Van.

Special Mine Search and Clearance Battalion Command teams affiliated with the Ankara Gendarmerie Engineering Command in the region are also clearing the mines on the border so that construction of the wall and trenches can be carried out safely.

Also, concrete blocks with a height of 3 meters, a width of 2 meters and 80 centimeters, and a weight of 7 tons, which are produced in concrete batching plants established by contractor companies, have been installed on the borderline, the ground of which has been prepared beforehand with construction equipment.

While construction on the wall continues, the security forces guarding the borderline in Van provide border security with patrol and surveillance activities during the day and thermal and night vision cameras at night. The security forces, which keep the region under control with unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), planes, drones and helicopters from the air, are trying to prevent migration movements through their successful operations.

Nine battalions of the 6th Border Brigade Command and soldiers serving in 44 police stations in the region are working to ensure security on the Iranian border with patrol and surveillance activities. In the region, two reconnaissance units, two commando companies, three companies and a battalion from the Gendarmerie General Command and 750 special operations police from the General Directorate of Security were sent to the region with their armored vehicles.

Van Governor Mehmet Emin Bilmez said that ditches were dug on the border, and a modular concrete wall and optical watchtowers were built. Bilmez said: "The construction of the new tower continues. The border units of the Land Forces patrol on a 24-hour basis. Gendarmerie units are on duty on the second line. Special operations police from outside the province also assist both the gendarmerie and the border troops. The statistical data we have does not show that this year's figures have increased compared to the past. On the contrary, I can say that there has been a greater increase in the number of people blocked at the border with the measures taken."

Turkish security forces monitor the eastern border with Iran, Van, Turkey, Aug. 19, 2021. (Sabah Photo)

Following a five-hour Cabinet meeting at the Presidential Complex in the capital Ankara, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan late Thursday said that, "Turkey does not have any obligation whatsoever to be a safe haven for Afghan refugees."

Addressing the public concerns regarding a possible refugee wave, Erdoğan also said that Turkey would ensure the refugees' safe return.
Erdoğan also dismissed claims of the opposition that Turkey is hosting 1.5 million Afghan refugees.

Regarding irregular migrants, Erdoğan said at least 235,000 Afghans have been sent back.

"It is our obligation to Turkish citizens to ensure the refugees’ safe return to their home countries," he said.

The president also affirmed his country's commitment to Afghanistan's "stability and security" and said Ankara could hold talks with the new government.
"We will meet with the government formed by the Taliban if necessary and discuss our mutual agendas," Erdoğan said.

Noting that there are 5,000 Turkish citizens residing in Afghanistan for various reasons, Erdoğan said 500 Turkish citizens along with 83 foreign nationals were brought to Turkey upon request.

"We will transfer our citizens, who are still waiting in line for their return, whose number is below 300, to our country as soon as possible," he added.
Turkey has been a key transit point for asylum-seekers attempting to cross into Europe to start new lives, especially those fleeing war and persecution.
Concerns have risen over a possible spike in migrants from Afghanistan, due to the United States' pullout from the country and the following surge of Taliban attacks.

Turkey has deployed additional reinforcements to its eastern border with Iran, and new measures are expected to be applied. Border security will be supported by technological systems to prevent a fresh influx of migrants.

Turkey has made it clear that it will not bear the burden of the migration crises experienced as a result of the decisions of third countries.

Turkey hosts nearly 4 million refugees – more than any country in the world. After the Syrian civil war broke out in 2011, Turkey adopted an “open-door policy” for people fleeing the conflict, granting them “temporary protection” status.

Afghans are believed to be the second-largest refugee community in Turkey after Syrians. Many of the migrants arriving via Iran are heading for Istanbul to find work or passage to another coastal city from which to embark for Europe.

Recently, European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said that Turkey would play a vital role in preventing the illegal crossing of irregular Afghan migrants into Europe.

[IMG alt="A view of the eastern border with Iran, Van, Turkey, Aug. 19, 2021. (Sabah Photo)
"]https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/ly/uploads/images/2021/08/20/137920.jpg[/IMG]A view of the eastern border with Iran, Van, Turkey, Aug. 19, 2021. (Sabah Photo)

U.S. President Joe Biden ordered the American military to withdraw from Afghanistan before Sept. 11, 2021, the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attack on the U.S. by Taliban-backed al-Qaida.

The Taliban declared the war in Afghanistan over after taking control of the presidential palace in Kabul, while Western nations scrambled on Monday to evacuate their citizens amid chaos at Kabul Hamid Karzai International Airport as frantic Afghans searched for a way out.

It took the Taliban just over a week to seize control of the country after a lightning sweep that ended in Kabul as government forces, trained for years and equipped by the U.S. and others at the cost of billions of dollars, melted away.

The Taliban swept into Kabul on Sunday after President Ashraf Ghani fled the country, bringing a stunning end to a two-decade campaign in which the U.S. and its allies had tried to transform Afghanistan.

Underlining that new realities have emerged in Afghanistan, Ankara says it will move forward accordingly while keeping communication with all relevant actors open.
Turkey appreciates the Taliban’s moderate statements and their pledge not to revert to their previous hard-line rule, President Erdoğan said late Wednesday, adding that Turkey is still prepared to protect Kabul airport following the Taliban takeover and is talking with all concerned parties.

Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu also stated that Turkey would act in coordination with the international community in its stance on the recognition of the new government in Afghanistan.

NATO member Turkey, which has hundreds of troops in Afghanistan, was discussing a proposal with the U.S. on keeping Turkish forces in the country to guard and run Kabul airport after the withdrawal of other NATO forces.

Ankara has been in talks with U.S. defense officials since offering to help secure and run Kabul airport, which is key to allowing countries to retain a diplomatic presence in Afghanistan after the U.S. troop withdrawal. But the swift Taliban takeover has left the Turkish plan in limbo.

American officials say they continue to talk to Ankara about security arrangements for the airport and have expressed gratitude for the role of Turkey in evacuating civilians from Kabul.

Turkish security forces on watch to prevent Afghan migration wave

Turkish security forces continue to patrol 24/7 to prevent a new influx of illegal Afghan migrants after the Taliban's takeover of the country....

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