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I took the liberty of asking the Google Gemini AI a hypothetical question just for fun, an extremely powerful tool I must say.

The answer from Gemini about the TEI TF 6000/10000 engine thrust-to-weight Ratio with Kizilelma:

The thrust-to-weight ratio of the Kizilelma drone with the available engines cannot be accurately calculated due to a lack of specific information.
However, there are two possible scenarios:


1. using the TEI TF-6000 engine:
* Thrust: 10,000 lbf (44,480 N) with afterburner
* Weight: 1,200 kg

Assumptions:
* The drone weighs 5,000 kg (approx. 11,000 lbs).
* The afterburner is only used during take-off and climb.


Calculation:
* Thrust-to-weight ratio with afterburner: 10,000 lbf / 5,000 kg = 2:1
* Thrust-to-weight ratio without afterburner: 6,000 lbf / 5,000 kg = 1.2:1

Result:
* With afterburner, the Kizilelma would have a very high thrust-to-weight ratio of 2:1, which would enable excellent acceleration, climb performance and top speed.
* Without afterburner, the thrust-to-weight ratio of 1.2:1 would still be good, but not as good as with afterburner.

2. use of a different engine:
It is possible that the Kizilelma will be equipped with a different engine that is not yet publicly known. In this case, the thrust-to-weight ratio would change depending on the performance of the engine.

Conclusion:
The thrust-to-weight ratio of the Kizilelma drone is currently not known exactly. It depends on the choice of engine and operating mode. However, it is likely that the drone will have a very high thrust-to-weight ratio, which would allow for excellent performance.
Additional points:
* Thrust-to-weight ratio is not the only factor that determines a drone's performance.
* Other factors such as aerodynamics, avionics and payload also play a role.
* The development of drones is a complex process in which many factors must be taken into account.
It is important to note that the above information is based on speculation only. Once official information about the Kizilelma drone and the engines used is released, the thrust-to-weight ratio can be calculated more accurately.
TF-6000 weight is 1200kg? I would be surprised if it is anything higher than 600kg.
 

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Interesting they went completely dark with KE's test campaign
My guess is that they gathered the data they needed from the first prototypes(or tech demonstrators if you will) and they will introduce a different model(B version or one with a western engine) soon. It should be a more complete and production-ready(or almost) prototype.

This is all speculation, of course.
 

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Someone please explain to me why Akinci use Aselflir-500? As hale shouldn't it use Aselflir-600 or MX-20 or MX-25?
What is the EO/IR it currently use both Akinci and Aksungur in Turkish army inventory?
Shouldn't Aselflir-500 compete with MX-15D?
Aselflir-600 not ready yet.
 

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"• Bayraktar KIZILELMA’nın uçuş ve manevra testleri tamamlandı. Seri üretim aşaması için çalışmalara başlandı."

KE's flight and maneuver tests were completed in 2023


I wonder what new album the Bayraktar group will please millions of its fans around the world this year? I personally am not so much interested in some completely new “song” as I am in the twin-engine Kyzylelma. I would even agree to a single-engine, but more powerful one. (I mean 6th generation fighter)
 

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Dreams'n dreams

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