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Americans could just give the Ukrainians exactly what they need
İt could end up with a nuclear strike so for deterrence, USA should supply Ukraine with nuclear weapons?


I think there is a hidden strategy behind the slow supply:
Don't make the bear feeling as looser.
 

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I think there is a hidden strategy behind the slow supply:
Don't make the bear feeling as looser.

The hidden strategy is the goal of extending the war for as long as possible. This is done by giving Russia the impression that they can win the war, fooling them into investing more resources into this quagmire.

Also, the Americans want to force the Europeans into footing most of the bill when it comes to keeping Ukraine in the fight, and their delays are forcing European countries to step up and increase their donations.

The US doesn’t care about the dead Ukrainian soldiers. They just want to keep this war going for as long as possible, while keeping the costs low for themsleves and inflicting a lot of damage on Russia.
 

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Are you seriously saying that the Russians never went on the offensive after 2022?
How did they take the “metropolis” of Bakhmut? Avdeevka?
We remember how they rejoiced, as if Paris and London had already been taken by them and they were moving with lightning speed towards New York :ROFLMAO:

Do you know how they do it?
They go on the offensive. If this succeeds, then it means there was a heroic offensive of the Russian knights!!! :LOL:

In case of failure they say: “We haven’t started yet”:)

Explain to me how it is possible to take an entire metropolis:oops: with a population of 50 thousand people, such as Bakhmut, without an offensive?!
Rearguard battles???:unsure:
without name calling your intelligence, show me where they have announced a major offensive? If I remember correctly it was just some Wagner units last time I have checked the map that were storming Bakhmut. Capturing urban areas takes a lot of time, what a shocker. Poland among other Baltic countries are trying to find bodies because the frontlines are collapsing, even /pol/ is having a field day with the most pro-ukraine twitter user posts.
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I think its already passed the point that Ukraine will win. I think the money spent is to prolong the conflict enough for the US elections.
 

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We are preparing for tomorrow's meeting of "Ramstein", - Zelensky.

"We will talk about how to quickly overcome the difficulties and problems that were accumulated for half a year, while we were waiting for decisions about American support."
 

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The US doesn’t care about the dead Ukrainian soldiers. They just want to keep this war going for as long as possible,

Unfortunately it is the most optimal solution for saving more Ukrainian lives.

Don't you think in the 2023 , still we are speaking lack of soldiers in Ukrainian Army while western armies having totally different doctrine against crowded land forces.

Look , today at least we have the technology of fighters and bombers that could slaughter troops massively.

İf Ukraine had 100 f-16 with mk84s , this year Russian casualties would be tripled.
What would it lead then ?

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This summer will be hot for invaders.

"The fragmentation pattern and range of a 2,000lb Mk 84 bomb are difficult to predict, but it is generally said that this weapon has a ‘lethal radius’ (i.e. the distance in which it is likely to kill people in the vicinity) of up to 360m.

The blast waves of such a weapon can create a very great concussive effect; a 2,000lb bomb can be expected to cause severe injury and damage as far as 800 metres from the point of impact.

The wide-area impact of these weapons can be affected by a range of tactical, technical, and environmental factors, including fusing and the angle of attack."
 

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Footage of the evacuation of the Russian Tsar tank T-72 from the battlefield in Ukraine. The Tsar Tank, also called the Tank-Grill, ran over a mine and stalled. The combat vehicle was attacked by Ukrainian FPV drones, but improvised protection minimized damage from the drones and the tank was not damaged. A combat vehicle was evacuated from the battlefield in the Krasnogorovka area by one of the Russian evacuation ARVs. It is worth noting that there are more and more tanks with such protection against drones, there are already several of them, at the moment this design most effectively protects against drones. They laugh at the design. But now there is no effective protection of tanks from drones. The Israeli army is now also installing canopies to protect tanks from drones

 

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Ukrainian defences are increasingly rapidly crumbling on multiple sectors. Doubtful if US aid can change that. Clear manpower shortage everywhere.
 

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This piece is an excellent writing that explains the phenomenon of Ukrainian able-bodied males that flee the country.

The most exciting thing about this is the fact that America (and the West in general) will be facing the very same once a major war that could drag their country into a prolonged fight broke out.


In Toynbee’s model, developed in his 12-volume Study of History, it denotes a group of citizens who live inside an empire, but for various structural reasons no longer benefit from it — and so are unlikely to rush to its defence. This is, after all, what happened in Rome: as the empire began to fall on hard times and the decline of the slavery-based economy started to bite, a mix of high taxes and painful labour shortages conspired to make Roman citizenship feel more like a yoke and less like a privilege. Once the barbarians came, many were disinclined to put up much resistance; and why would they?
I mean why would they, as everyday Americans face rising cost of living, their government are busy spending money (that the U.S doesn't have) for foreign countries like Ukraine and Israel. Note that America borrows those $90B they've earmarked for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Somebody will eventually pay for it and it ain't those 3 countries.

Many, let’s not forget, believe America is heading for bankruptcy. The deficit is massive, the national debt is exploding, and underneath it all lies the underreported but truly eye-watering figure of $175 billion, which is what the US Treasury projects it will need to actually fund its social safety net. And what is America’s political class doing in the face of this looming fiscal disaster? They are quite literally borrowing money to send to Ukraine and Israel instead — a move that, in the corporate world, would be considered asset stripping.
Ordinary American voters are no doubt starting to feel what the put-upon Romans did: the empire is no longer working for them.

 

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As soon as tomorrow, USA 🇺🇸 will announce $6 Billion usd worth of military aid for Ukraine in the form of defense purchases from American industry. These purchases will equip Ukraine in the short, medium and long term using USAI money, while Presidential Drawdown Authority will continue to equip Ukraine in the immediacy. With approximately $6 billion usd contracted out, that leaves a little bit over $7 Billion usd left in the USAI pool of funds approved in the recent supplemental package.

Among other things the package is expected to include...

- Patriot Missiles
- Artillery
- Artillery shells
- Tactical Vehicles
- Counter Battery RADARS
- Precision munitions
- Counter UAV systems


 

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Contrary to false reporting and propaganda, the first batch of artillery shells purchased via the Czech 🇨🇿 led coalition, will start to begin to arrive in late May / early June. The shells are reportedly being purchased from South Korea and South Africa 🇿🇦.

 

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This piece is an excellent writing that explains the phenomenon of Ukrainian able-bodied males that flee the country.

The most exciting thing about this is the fact that America (and the West in general) will be facing the very same once a major war that could drag their country into a prolonged fight broke out.


In Toynbee’s model, developed in his 12-volume Study of History, it denotes a group of citizens who live inside an empire, but for various structural reasons no longer benefit from it — and so are unlikely to rush to its defence. This is, after all, what happened in Rome: as the empire began to fall on hard times and the decline of the slavery-based economy started to bite, a mix of high taxes and painful labour shortages conspired to make Roman citizenship feel more like a yoke and less like a privilege. Once the barbarians came, many were disinclined to put up much resistance; and why would they?
I mean why would they, as everyday Americans face rising cost of living, their government are busy spending money (that the U.S doesn't have) for foreign countries like Ukraine and Israel. Note that America borrows those $90B they've earmarked for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Somebody will eventually pay for it and it ain't those 3 countries.

Many, let’s not forget, believe America is heading for bankruptcy. The deficit is massive, the national debt is exploding, and underneath it all lies the underreported but truly eye-watering figure of $175 billion, which is what the US Treasury projects it will need to actually fund its social safety net. And what is America’s political class doing in the face of this looming fiscal disaster? They are quite literally borrowing money to send to Ukraine and Israel instead — a move that, in the corporate world, would be considered asset stripping.
Ordinary American voters are no doubt starting to feel what the put-upon Romans did: the empire is no longer working for them.


Jokes like this, while seemingly uneventful are usually the muted scream of the working masses.


At some point in time they'll have to find a way out.

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