Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Scott Summers]

US Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellog: “There is no place for EU nations at the negotiation table.

US, Russia and Ukraine will sit on this table alone. Adding EU countries to the table would make the process slow and complex.”

VS-gezant ziet geen plek voor Europa aan onderhandelingstafel over Oekraïne

De Verenigde Staten zijn niet van plan om Europese landen een plek aan de onderhandelingstafel over vrede in Oekraïne te geven. Dat zegt Keith Kellogg, de Amerikaanse gezant voor Oekraïne en Rusland, zaterdag tegen The Guardian en CNBC.

www.nu.nl

Hahahahaha!

This is the biggest middlefinger i saw in the face of Europe (after conquering Constantinopel in 1453 offcourse).

Billions of taxmoney from hardworking European middleclass flushed trough the Indian street-toilet and tons of modern sophisticated European weaponry just smashed to dust like a Hebrew fart in the Negev desert.

What a sacrifice. All for the glorious Zelensky, who in the end gives the Southern and Eastern regions to Russia anyway.

And now Europe must pay MORE money to rebuild Ukraine.

Its like a Monthy Python show. Where is that Canadian guy with al the weapon delivery propaganda?

 

[contricusc]

US Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellog: “There is no place for EU nations at the negotiation table.

US, Russia and Ukraine will sit on this table alone. Adding EU countries to the table would make the process slow and complex.”

This negotiation process will most likely fail before it even starts. If no European country will be at the negotiattion table, it means the negotiation will not be serious and will not achieve anything.

So the most likely outcome is that the war will continue to grind on.

 

[contricusc]

The balkans are like one of the most nationalistic countries next to Turkiye, Italy, eastern european countries and Japan. If anything they will just piss off the EU by not doing their mandatory service of taking in 1000s of migrants from Africa or start legalizing gay marriage. I think there is a reason why they are still not in the EU.

In the long term, the EU will probably change its “values” and will abandon the current flawed policies of bringing in undocumented migrants from Africa and forcing gay marriage on member countries. The EU will reform and change, and the mentioned countries will be happy to join.

 

[Spitfire9]

For Putin believers reading:

Moscow (AFP) – Russia's central bank sharply raised its inflation forecast for 2025 on Friday, warning there was no sign rocketing price increases would go into reverse.

Annual inflation ticked up to 9.9 percent year-on-year in January, compared with 9.5 percent in December, according to the Rosstat statistics service.

The central bank held borrowing costs at a two-decade high of 21 percent on Friday, despite complaints

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250214-russian-central-bank-sharply-raises-inflation-f

The central bank was expected to raise base rate further at the end of 2024 to contain inflation. Putin is the guy who it is said stopped the bank from raising base rate. He is damaging the economy with his war spending and only making things worse by interfering with management of the economy.

Personally I am pleased that Putin is interfering. The more he does, the greater the economic and financial problems Russia will face.

 

[Scott Summers]

This negotiation process will most likely fail before it even starts. If no European country will be at the negotiattion table, it means the negotiation will not be serious and will not achieve anything.

So the most likely outcome is that the war will continue to grind on.

How would the war go on if Trump brokes a peace deal between Zelensky and Putin?

You think Zelensky will backstab Trump after the negotiations and fight again?

Or would Europe not recognize a peace deal ? That sounds stupid, even for Europe.

Trump and Putin just checkmated Europe. Get over with it.

 

[FiReFTW]

US Special Envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellog: “There is no place for EU nations at the negotiation table.

US, Russia and Ukraine will sit on this table alone. Adding EU countries to the table would make the process slow and complex.”

VS-gezant ziet geen plek voor Europa aan onderhandelingstafel over Oekraïne

De Verenigde Staten zijn niet van plan om Europese landen een plek aan de onderhandelingstafel over vrede in Oekraïne te geven. Dat zegt Keith Kellogg, de Amerikaanse gezant voor Oekraïne en Rusland, zaterdag tegen The Guardian en CNBC.

www.nu.nl

Hahahahaha!

This is the biggest middlefinger i saw in the face of Europe (after conquering Constantinopel in 1453 offcourse).

Billions of taxmoney from hardworking European middleclass flushed trough the Indian street-toilet and tons of modern sophisticated European weaponry just smashed to dust like a Hebrew fart in the Negev desert.

What a sacrifice. All for the glorious Zelensky, who in the end gives the Southern and Eastern regions to Russia anyway.

And now Europe must pay MORE money to rebuild Ukraine.

Its like a Monthy Python show. Where is that Canadian guy with al the weapon delivery propaganda?

Any English source to this? Did he really say that? That is a bit odd to be honest.

 

[Scott Summers]

Any English source to this? Did he really say that? That is a bit odd to be honest.

Sorry, there is no place at the table for you, guys.

MSN

Maybe our Canadian friend Relic can cheer us up with a lot of messages about weapon deliveries and flags and equipment names etc.

 

[FiReFTW]

Sorry, there is no place at the table for you, guys.

MSN

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Maybe our Canadian friend Relic can cheer us up with a lot of messages about weapon deliveries and flags and equipment names etc.

Lol at "you guys"

Don't you live in the netherlands?

 

[Anastasius]

China has decided to step in and get Ukraine, EU and Russia together at the negotiating table. Pretty masterful move after whatever the fuck Trump did to crater the US' influence in Europe.

 

[Spitfire9]

China has decided to step in and get Ukraine, EU and Russia together at the negotiating table. Pretty masterful move after whatever the fuck Trump did to crater the US' influence in Europe.

A step up from the madness of the Trump administration's proposal.

 

[Ryder]

If Zelensky ran away when the Russians invaded everybody would have called him a coward.

When he decided to fight back against the Russian behemoth. Everybody is like its his fault for fighting a war he cant win.

Fck that!!

 

[Iskander]

Trump and Putin just checkmated Europe.

Europe without the US is nothing compared to Russia in military terms. Europe alone is not in a position to defend itself against Russia.


Putin is angry.
Poor Europe!

 

[Scott Summers]

If Zelensky ran away when the Russians invaded everybody would have called him a coward.

When he decided to fight back against the Russian behemoth. Everybody is like its his fault for fighting a war he cant win.

Fck that!!

Zelensky has a double nationality so if he must run he can always go to Israel.

 

[Spitfire9]

If Zelensky ran away when the Russiams invaded everybody would have called him a coward.

When he decided to fight back against the Russian behemoth. Everybody is like its his fault for fighting a war he cant win.

Fck that!!

Indeed. I have relatives in a couple of countries that were invaded by the Germany in WWII. They stood no chance of repulsing the might of Germany but they did not want to lose their freedom and live under tyranny so they resisted. Ukraine is in a far better position to resist Russia than their countries were to resist Germany in 1940.

Who in their right mind would swap independence and freedom for control by a tyrannical regime that would remove their freedom?

 

[Spitfire9]

Zelensky has a double nationality so if he must run he can always go to Israel.

You may recall that when Ukraine was invaded and Zelensky was offered help to leave he responded by saying that he did not need a ride, he needed bullets.

 

[Ryder]

Zelensky has a double nationality so if he must run he can always go to Israel.

If Zelensky did not act nice to Israel then USA would have easily not helped him.

Remember how we did not act nice to Israel instead Turkiye got its F35's taken away.

From Zelensky's point of view it made sense what is the point in making the USA your enemy when you are already being invaded.

 

[Soldier30]

The first footage of attacks by Russian FPV drones "Prince Vandal Novgorodsky", controlled via fiber optic cable, on the Ukrainian two-link transporter-tractor "Bv 206". The video was filmed in the Kharkiv region of Ukraine. Previously, the all-terrain vehicle was used by the 141st infantry brigade of the Ukrainian army.
The tracked articulated all-terrain vehicle Bandvagn 206 was developed in Sweden in 1974, and is still actively used today. Due to the low ground pressure, not all anti-tank mines explode under it. The carrying capacity of the all-terrain vehicle "Bv 206" is about 2240 kg, it can carry up to 17 soldiers.
Judging by the video, the Ukrainian all-terrain vehicle Bv 206 was attacked by several Russian FPV drones, as a result of which the all-terrain vehicle was destroyed.

 

[blackjack]

I dont know which one to believe guys.

 

[Scott Summers]

If Zelensky did not act nice to Israel then USA would have easily not helped him.

Remember how we did not act nice to Israel instead Turkiye got its F35's taken away.

From Zelensky's point of view it made sense what is the point in making the USA your enemy when you are already being invaded.

Zelensky has a Israeli passport, he is a Ukrainian jew. These people are in the end more loyal to Israel.

Like in the US government and Congress and Senate, all those with dual passports are more loyal to their Israeli passports.

Same thing in Turkey. ‘Turks’ with a Israeli passport didnt know how quick they should join the IDF after 7 october. They even posted their genocidial crimes on Instagram and still the cowardous AKP government didnt punish them.

 

[Barry]

Can see why EU would be left out. What does the EU know of peace? They're always too busy supporting PKK, supporting the inhumane isolation of Turkish Cypriots in their own home, throwing them under the bus after the annan plan failed, they had no problem sinking boats of refugees fleeing the murder and war the EU committed itself to in their mother countries.

And now you dumped all your military stock into Ukraine and sold ass to the US for their systems, becoming even more beholden to their supply-chains and word on how and when you can use them. You've been set up.