Turkey slams Macron for describing Ottoman rule in Algeria as colonialism

[CEZAYIRLI]

Turkey slams Macron for describing Ottoman rule in Algeria as colonialism

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the Ottoman Empire's rule in Algeria as "colonialism," saying it was wrong of him to “drag” Turkey into a debate on France's colonial past in the North African country.

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Turkey slams Macron for describing Ottoman rule in Algeria as colonialism​

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the Ottoman Empire's rule in Algeria as "colonialism," saying it was wrong of him to “drag” Turkey into a debate on France's colonial past in the North African country.​

Friday October 08 2021 01:52 pm

Turkish FM Çavuşoğlu addresses a press meeting in this file photo.
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Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the 300-year rule of the Ottoman Empire as “colonialism,” saying that “such cheap approaches do not benefit anyone in elections."
Speaking at a news conference in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv after meeting with his Ukrainian counterpart on Oct. 7, Çavuşoğlu said: "It is extremely wrong to drag Turkey, which does not have a black mark, such as colonialism, in its history, into such debates."
Çavuşoğlu said that France has entered the "election atmosphere" ahead of the 2022 presidential elections and that "Macron uses this way because of the elections."

"However, both in France and in other countries, we have seen that such cheap approaches do not help in the elections either," he added.
"Therefore, instead of such populist approaches, it would be better for him to take steps to gain the trust of his own people."
Çavuşoğu's comments came following Macron's remarks on the North African country’s colonial past.

Macron said last week, “There was a colonization before the French colonial rule” in Algeria, alluding to the Ottoman presence in the country between 1514 and 1830.

“The building of Algeria as a nation is a phenomenon worth watching. Was there an Algerian nation before French colonization? That is the question,” Macron said last week during a meeting with the descendants of Algerians at the Elysee Palace who fought on France’s side during Algeria’s war of independence.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

Turkey slams Macron for describing Ottoman rule in Algeria as colonialism

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the Ottoman Empire's rule in Algeria as "colonialism," saying it was wrong of him to “drag” Turkey into a debate on France's colonial past in the North African country.

www.duvarenglish.com

Turkey slams Macron for describing Ottoman rule in Algeria as colonialism​

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the Ottoman Empire's rule in Algeria as "colonialism," saying it was wrong of him to “drag” Turkey into a debate on France's colonial past in the North African country.​

Friday October 08 2021 01:52 pm

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Turkish FM Çavuşoğlu addresses a press meeting in this file photo.
Duvar English

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu has slammed French President Emmanuel Macron for describing the 300-year rule of the Ottoman Empire as “colonialism,” saying that “such cheap approaches do not benefit anyone in elections."
Speaking at a news conference in the Ukrainian capital Kyiv after meeting with his Ukrainian counterpart on Oct. 7, Çavuşoğlu said: "It is extremely wrong to drag Turkey, which does not have a black mark, such as colonialism, in its history, into such debates."
Çavuşoğlu said that France has entered the "election atmosphere" ahead of the 2022 presidential elections and that "Macron uses this way because of the elections."

"However, both in France and in other countries, we have seen that such cheap approaches do not help in the elections either," he added.
"Therefore, instead of such populist approaches, it would be better for him to take steps to gain the trust of his own people."
Çavuşoğu's comments came following Macron's remarks on the North African country’s colonial past.

Macron said last week, “There was a colonization before the French colonial rule” in Algeria, alluding to the Ottoman presence in the country between 1514 and 1830.

“The building of Algeria as a nation is a phenomenon worth watching. Was there an Algerian nation before French colonization? That is the question,” Macron said last week during a meeting with the descendants of Algerians at the Elysee Palace who fought on France’s side during Algeria’s war of independence.

1) Algeria's history books describe the Ottoman presence in Algeria as an Islamic Khilafat, and not a colonial occupation. (That is the history that I personally studied when I was in High School, in Algiers.)

2) France falsely claims that Algeria didn't exist prior to the French occupation of 1830. Yet the pre-Islamic Algerian nation during Antiquity (Numidia) existed centuries before France (Gaule) came into existence.

Kingdom of Numidia
• 202–148 BC	Masinissa
• 60–46 BC	Juba I of Numidia
Historical era	Antiquity
• Established	202 BC

 

[mulj]

Dumb ignorant and islamophobe. It is not coincidence that people slap and harras him on any given opportunity, they feel his intrinistic vile nature.

 

[Anastasius]

I've literally spoken to Algerians who dislike the Ottomans because they didn't stay and defend Algeria against the French. France is by far more hated among Algerians than the Ottomans ever were.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

I've literally spoken to Algerians who dislike the Ottomans because they didn't stay and defend Algeria against the French. France is by far more hated among Algerians than the Ottomans ever were.

This question is not as simple as it might seem. Many Ottomans remained and fought for Algeria after the French Occupation, and many of them until today have remained as citizens of Algeria.
Statistical studies show a variation between 5% up to 20% of the Algerian population today being of Ottoman descent.
-There is a lot to be said on this question, reason why I am quite interested in writing a report on it in this forum in the coming days.

 

[Ryder]

I've literally spoken to Algerians who dislike the Ottomans because they didn't stay and defend Algeria against the French. France is by far more hated among Algerians than the Ottomans ever were.

Ottomans should not be blamed they got crippled thanks to the battle of navarino which the Ottomans and Ottoman Algerians lost their fleets while at the same time Ottoman troops were fighting in Greece.

In 1831, Muhammed Ali Pasha declared war on us he started a civil war.

There was no chance in recovering Algeria at all.

Blame goes to the backstabbing Muhammed Ali Pasha.

 

[Ryder]

French took Algeria in such a backtabbing way just because the Bey hit the French for not paying their debts.

French used that as an excuse to invade the Bey of Algiers.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

Ottomans should not be blamed they got crippled thanks to the battle of navarino which the Ottomans and Ottoman Algerians lost their fleets while at the same time Ottoman troops were fighting in Greece.

In 1831, Muhammed Ali Pasha declared war on us he started a civil war.

There was no chance in recovering Algeria at all.

Blame goes to the backstabbing Muhammed Ali Pasha.

Just to answer Macron in his recent attacks on both Turkey and Algeria: the Ottomans in Algeria were never a foreign occupation, to the contrary.

The Ottomans were invited by the Algerians to protect them from Spanish and other European invasions. During that period, Ottomans and Algerians fought side by side in many naval wars in the Mediterranean. In the process, many Algerians and Ottomans intermarried throughout the years, and composed together the fabric of the Algerian society that exists today.

 

[NumidianCavalry]

While Algeria made its deals, war and peace treaties and all the political decisions on its own independently from the ottoman empire, it was the Algerian rulers who asked to join the khalifat in 1515 in exchange for naval support from Istanbul to fight the Spaniards who were making who were making new crusades in the southern Mediterranean, the ottomans obliged, we fought the invading christians (and their alliés, the people living in what's now known as morocco) together and successfully liberated every piece of land of Algeria.
After a little period of the Pacha ruling, the Algerians constituted the Diwan, a parliament within which the regency were ruled, it was constituted of the Rias who were the admirals of the Algerian navy, they were all Muslims from whatever origin, the diwan was also constituted of the local tribe representatives along with the Odjaks.
This Diwan made the french themselves qualify algeria as a republic in many publications of the 18th century.
Attached the letter sent by the nobles of Algiers to the Sultan in 1519

 

[Ryder]

Just to answer Macron in his recent attacks on both Turkey and Algeria: the Ottomans in Algeria were never a foreign occupation, to the contrary.

The Ottomans were invited by the Algerians to protect them from Spanish and other European invasions. During that period, Ottomans and Algerians fought side by side in many naval wars in the Mediterranean. In the process, many Algerians and Ottomans intermarried throughout the years, and composed together the fabric of the Algerian society that exists today.

Europeans always cry about the Barbary Pirates when at the same time they constantly raided and destroyed villages and towns in the Middle East and North Africa. They constantly attacked North Africa because it was closer.

A lot of the Muslims ended up as slaves across European slave markets.