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GoatsMilk said:
Turkish people saw very well how America and Russia worked together against Turkey in Syria. Both supporting terrorist factions and promoting separatists ambitions against Turkey.
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By weakening Russia in Ukraine and prolonging the war. Turkey could force Rus in the position of weakness if hostilities re-appeared in Idlib.
 
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McCool said:
By weakening Russia in Ukraine and prolonging the war. Turkey could force Rus in the position of weakness if hostilities re-appeared in Idlib.
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I guess the point is that the USA and Russia are happy to work together against 3rd nations. They are enemies when they are against each other, but when it comes to others they are very much united.

So against the world the USA/Russia are two sides of the same coin.

Ukraine was being thrown under the bus and you have to wonder what deals had to have been made behind the scenes. Only once it became apparent that Ukraine wasnt going to fold, perceptions changed. Even then the Ukrainians are being drip fed weapons, a month into the war British wants to send the air defence system, why not send it within the first week?
 
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Nykyus said:
Interview with Ukrainian military analyst Andrey Illarionov. Extremely dissatisfied with the actions of the Biden administration. He says the US has provided $800 million worth of comparable military aid, comparable to that of a poor village, including stingers and javelins, enough for 1.5 days of combat throughout the year. Because it spends 500 javelins and 500 stingers daily. At the time, Luxembourg provided $250 million in military aid and the Czech Republic $500 million. During the war in Afghanistan, the Americans provided 4 billion dollars a year to help the government under their control, whose opponents walked in slippers.
He says that the NATO military approached me and asked for a CIA officer to fly to Moscow in November to conclude a pact similar to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in 1939, when Poland was divided by the USSR and Germany.
Under Trump, Moscow has never concentrated troops on the border with Ukraine.
Putin pretends to threaten with a nuclear baton, and Biden pretends to be scared. I don't like this bad game at all. Do you remember that Biden recalled American instructors before the war? Do you remember that you sent the US embassy to the city of Lvov? That is, Biden crossed out the Zelensky government from his plans. He talks a lot about help, but there is no real help from him and never will be.
The fact that Putin is bluffing with a nuclear baton is clear. On August 11, 2008, it was enough for American warships to enter the Black Sea for the advance in Georgia to stop.
In 2017, it was enough for a Russian bomber to enter Turkey for 40 seconds to be shot down. After that, there were no attempts to enter Turkish airspace. Moscow did not drop an atomic bomb on Istanbul.
In 2018, when the Wagner PMCs entered the oil fields in Syria and were bombed by the Americans, Moscow did not throw atomic bombs.
Now, when 2 countries (Russia, Belarus) carried out aggression against our country, one state, Turkey, helped us without our request. They blocked the Dardanelles, otherwise the Russian warships that entered would begin to bomb Ukrainian cities. For us, this assistance is much more important than the provision of fighters. And why did Moscow hit Turkey with atomic weapons? Russian propagandists on the TV channel, lackeys of Putin, Skabeev, Kedmi, Solovyov, began to threaten Turkey?
Azerbaijan, which is not part of NATO, sent its troops to Karabakh and demanded the withdrawal of the peacekeeping contingent from Karabakh, then Russia began to threaten Baku with nuclear weapons?

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“…spends 500 javelins and 500 stingers daily.”
Javelin’s number is may be acceptable but Stinger’s number is definitely insane.
May be these numbers are what needed to cover all the Ukrainian soil with sufficient numbers.
 
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Hexciter said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508339037056409603
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While such news is great, the source is a bit controversial

TurkishFacts4u does have a record of posting bullshit news at times; though, the current news may be legit since lots of Erdo's projects depend on Ukraine

Another question is..... Why refugee status and not citizens? I believe they can be given the citizenship and then start working in TAI, TR Motor, Kale, black shield, or even set up a new comoany of their own
 
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