European distrust of Islam/Muslim stems from race not religion

[Null/Void]

The Past few weeks despite the Covid-19 pandemic,the geopolitical tensions between China/Russia and America we have seen a return of the Muslim scare in light of the murder of Samuel Petty the French teacher and French President Macron"s statements in regards to "freedom of speech" and controversial remarks in regards to Muslims and Islam in general.Alright after years of interactions and studying of the Western and primarily European Right Wing I have to come to a simple understanding that could explain the hostility to Certain Muslim immigrants and it's not religion primary reason is and will always be race,from 9/11 to like 2018 the pro Zionist Counter "Jihad" due to the tragedy of terrorism that afflicted the west and America in the early 2000s used the right wing as cannon fodder to rally the mainstream narrative for Middle Eastern wars and intervention the election of Trump/Brexit led to rise of populist right opposed to these intervention and in some circles of Israel anyways simple analysis unlike America which is a settler colony Western Europe mainly gets Muslim immigrants from South Asia,North Africa and to a extent Eastern Turkey,the racial tensions were there since advent of guest worker immigration schemes of the 1950s 1960s and 1970s always was about race the supposed "Islamophobia" is veener or racial hatred towards non whites Europe did not flinch when it help the White Bosniaks and White Albanians in the mid to late 90s when Yugoslavia was buring down if they were a billion Bosnians,Albanians,Tatars
,Chechens*non Islamist ones or Western Balkan Turks from Izmir and Istanbul who primarily are Muslim they would not flinch at all they would be like Ashkenazi Jews so the hatred is primary to Arabs,Pakistanis,and Anatolian Turks

 

[Ryder]

Yes and No to be honest.

Because Bosniaks and Albanians are Muslim even they are not accepted as white Europeans.

Both religious and racial bias. Plays at hand here when it comes to this issue.

 

[Null/Void]

Yes and No to be honest.

Because Bosniaks and Albanians are Muslim even they are not accepted as white Europeans.

Both religious and racial bias. Plays at hand here when it comes to this issue.

If its inter-Balkan stuff no one is really accepted too many historical revisionism among the South Slavs but you saw how the western media latched onto their plight in the Media and Military support as well also the French mainstream political theorist Berhard Henri Levy the architect of the Kurdish separatists,Color Revolutions,and Iraq war was close friends with Alijia Izbethgovich

 

[Ryder]

If its inter-Balkan stuff no one is really accepted too many historical revisionism among the South Slavs but you saw how the western media latched onto their plight in the Media and Military support as well also the French mainstream political theorist Berhard Henri Levy the architect of the Kurdish separatists,Color Revolutions,and Iraq war was close friends with Alijia Izbethgovich

When Europeans during the Ottoman era converted to Islam they were called renegades or turning Turk. Basically no longer European because they rejected Christianity and became Muslims. Overtime they became assimlated to the population of North Africa and the Middle East also in Anatolia.

Interesting fact how a lot Barbary Pirates came from Western European Renegades.

 

[ekemenirtu]

Europe has a history of being ruled by Muslims for centuries. Spain for example.

Maybe it's due to some sort of complex.

Of course, Europeans colonized most of the world.

That they have no issues with.

However, most of the world never ruled Europe. Not China. Not Japan. Not Korea. Not India. Not ASEAN. Not Africa south of the Sahara. Not Australia. Not Red Indians or natives of Americas.

The only "outsiders" who ruled Europe for multiple centuries at a stretch were various Muslim groups.

For Europe and the USA, the biggest and most prominent threat at the moment is China. China desperately needs a breather given how Trump, Pompeo and co has been choking Huawei, Chinese investments, BRI and trying to box China in within the 1st Island Chain.

Macron has been suspected to be an agent of Communists. Which is why this latest fiasco. To divert Western attention and give China a 'breather' again.

China gained a lot of respite due to American unwarranted wars of aggression in the last two decades.

Apparently, they need more time and are using their agents in EU and USA to attain that goal - to attain some breathing room and time to surpass the collective West.

Western strategic thinkers should never lose sight of the forest for the trees.

 

[ekemenirtu]

When Europeans during the Ottoman era converted to Islam they were called renegades or turning Turk. Basically no longer European because they rejected Christianity and became Muslims. Overtime they became assimlated to the population of North Africa and the Middle East also in Anatolia.

Interesting fact how a lot Barbary Pirates came from Western European Renegades.

Ironic.

Considering Christianity and Judaism also originate from outside Europe. What they call the "Middle East" to be more precise.

 

[Ryder]

Ironic.

Considering Christianity and Judaism also originate from outside Europe. What they call the "Middle East" to be more precise.

Christianity became interwined with their identity.

Dont be surprised if Islam overtime became interwined with European ethnicity.

Religion does not change your race or ethnicity.

Also how Muslims enslaved Europeans. Took Spain and also reached the gates of Vienna played into their fears.

Ottoman invasion of Europe was printed even more than the discovery of the New World.

The west makes a big mistake thinking Muslims are one group and the Islamic World. Not realising how diverse it is. Also Muslims spent more time fighting each other than going for the "infidels" as they believe.

Ottomans fought other Muslims and Anatolian Beyliks before even coming to Vienna.

 

[dani92]

The Past few weeks despite the Covid-19 pandemic,the geopolitical tensions between China/Russia and America we have seen a return of the Muslim scare in light of the murder of Samuel Petty the French teacher and French President Macron"s statements in regards to "freedom of speech" and controversial remarks in regards to Muslims and Islam in general.Alright after years of interactions and studying of the Western and primarily European Right Wing I have to come to a simple understanding that could explain the hostility to Certain Muslim immigrants and it's not religion primary reason is and will always be race,from 9/11 to like 2018 the pro Zionist Counter "Jihad" due to the tragedy of terrorism that afflicted the west and America in the early 2000s used the right wing as cannon fodder to rally the mainstream narrative for Middle Eastern wars and intervention the election of Trump/Brexit led to rise of populist right opposed to these intervention and in some circles of Israel anyways simple analysis unlike America which is a settler colony Western Europe mainly gets Muslim immigrants from South Asia,North Africa and to a extent Eastern Turkey,the racial tensions were there since advent of guest worker immigration schemes of the 1950s 1960s and 1970s always was about race the supposed "Islamophobia" is veener or racial hatred towards non whites Europe did not flinch when it help the White Bosniaks and White Albanians in the mid to late 90s when Yugoslavia was buring down if they were a billion Bosnians,Albanians,Tatars
,Chechens*non Islamist ones or Western Balkan Turks from Izmir and Istanbul who primarily are Muslim they would not flinch at all they would be like Ashkenazi Jews so the hatred is primary to Arabs,Pakistanis,and Anatolian Turks

It could be both also Islam conflict with the Europeans nature of having sexual relations and nudity the Europeans kept these things even after they converted to Christianity

 

[mulj]

Complicated matter, both @Yankeestani and @Nein2.0 have valid points, but i want to point new phenomena, white converts that demographic group could have most objective pov on that matter and what i noticed that those people recently trying to form their own social group exactly becuase cultural and racial misunderstandings.

 

[Ryder]

Complicated matter, both @Yankeestani and @Nein2.0 have valid points, but i want to point new phenomena, white converts that demographic group cokd have most objective pov on that matter and what i noticed that those people recently trying to form their own social group exactly becuase cultural and racial misunderstandings

Some Brown and black muslims infected with sjw garbage have this sort of suspicion of white muslims even calling them white supremacists.

 

[receivedxqy]

Residents of most European countries believe that Islam is a religion of intolerance.