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[Gary]

Ternyata IRST yg Taiwan beli untuk F16 Viper sudah bisa guide AIM-120 C/D, artinya bisa kill J20 dari jarak 100km+.
Ngeri2 sedap juga bagi China.

U.S. sensor systems will greatly boost Taiwan's air combat readiness: MND, experts - Focus Taiwan

Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense (MND) said Thursday that a proposed arms package, comprising infrared search and track systems (IRST) for the country's fleet of F-16V aircraft, will vastly improve their long-range detection and target tracking, significantly boosting its air-to-air combat...

focustaiwan.tw

5 Reasons IRST21 Is Revolutionizing The Battlespace

As our military service women and men assess the growing threat in the Pacific, they require a capability that keep them safe in any battle environment.

www.lockheedmartin.com

Yang paling menarik antara pod sudah terintegrasi satu sama lain, jadi battlespace picture dari multiple pod bisa digabung.

The datalink breakthrough that was demonstrated at Northern Edge essentially coupled a pair of Legion Pods together, on two different Air Force F-15C fighter jets, so that the range of any given target could be determined “near instantaneously,” according to Lockheed Martin.

Legion Infrared Search And Track Pods Can Now Carry Their Own Datalinks For More Lethal Targeting

A new datalink in the IRST pod not only boosts accuracy but could serve as a future communications pathway.

www.thedrive.com

Kalau cuma mengandalkan satu IRST kayaknya jarak pandangnya bakal terpengaruh FoV nya yang narrow kalau di cue search.

It's true that IRST systems are not very good for volume search especially compared to modern radars vs. 4th gen jets. IRST systems tend to have 2 or 3 different fields of view (basically magnification) for different tasks. Wide FoV is used for volume search and navigation. Narrow FoV is used for cued (small volume) search, identification and single target tracking. Some targeting pods have more FoVs to select from and can have very narrow FoV for very long range targeting and tracking. Those narrow FoVs can be something like 3-8 degrees in most IRST systems and wide FoV is something like 10-20 degrees. Effective range and FoV is basically inversely proportional to each other. Meaning that 5 degree FoV has 3 times the range compared to 15 degree FoV.

View topic - FLIR , IRST in air to air mission • F-16.net

Military aviation forum since 2003, with high quality discussion focusing on the F-16, F-35 and F-22 jet fighters and the C-130.

www.f-16.net

 

[Gary]

Netizen kita diserang balik cuy. Wkwk n kita dikatain pesek.

stereotip mereka kan emang hidungnya kepanjangan wkwkw

 

[Lordimperator]

Saya udah terlanjur janji, kalau F15 beneran terbeli saya harus coblos dia...

Belinya pasca pilpres wkwk

 

[norman88]

Still less than PRC’s PL-15, next generation missile needed so much.

In short,

F-16 have glass V (RCS 1.2 m²) + IRST21 > It can guide AIM-120D (160 km) to take down J20 without the need for using a radar.

J20 > Needs to activate radar to detect F-16 (No stealth anymore, detectable by F-16 RWR). J20 radar range for F-16 (RCS 1.2 m²) is likely between 150-200 km at best (at least above F-35 radar, or comparable to F-22 radar).

Although J20 has a higher chance of winning, overall, the 1v1 scenario between the two aircraft is on par. IMO, the future is all about electronic warfare, and even passive stealth (RAM) will gradually become obsolete.

 

[Umigami]

the future is all about electronic warfare, and even passive stealth (RAM) will gradually become obsolete.

So something like EX or growler ?

 

[norman88]

So something like EX or growler ?

Ya, at least three stealth aircraft countermeasures are currently being developed, RWR, IRST, and Multistatic radar installed on fighter aircraft.

 

[Gary]

Skenario menarik
Brazil : F-39 Gripen x highly modded F-5EM Tiger III
Venezuela : Su-30MK2V + base F-16

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730740690185838887

 

[Umigami]

Skenario menarik
Brazil : F-39 Gripen x highly modded F-5EM Tiger III
Venezuela : Su-30MK2V + base F-16

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730740690185838887

How Venezuelan maintain those Falcons while on embargo?

 

[Gary]

How Venezuelan maintain those Falcons while on embargo?

The same way we maintain ours during the embargo perhaps? Less time in the air + canibalization

 

[Gary]

Also I never knew the Venezuelan viper has Python IV and litening pods.

 

[NEKO]

Paraguay official resigns after signing agreement with fictional country

Arnaldo Chamorro replaced after he signed ‘proclamation’ with representatives of fugitive Indian guru’s fake country

www.theguardian.com

Halu

 

[schuimpjes]

Resuming the “Far East Fleet”

No one could fulfill Yani’s dream until now lol

 

[NEKO]

Perencannaan yang menggelegar, semoga eksekusiny gak melempem.

Terus dari berbagai render 3d yang ane liat itu ntar banyak pohon2nya(yang mana itu bagus) di tanam di plot taman2 kecil tapi ada juga yang bawahnya pohon itu trotoar, jalan, beton, diatas bangunan, dll dan bukan tanah jadi keknya bakal butuh banyak tukang sapunya.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731510787670528386

 

[schuimpjes]

Guns of the ceremonies (no pistol included)

Af–Pak Region

AK (7,62x39 and 5,45), PK, M16

Gulf Region

AK (7,62x39 and 5,45)

Palestine (West Bank)

Menusar, M4, M16

 

[Gary]

We Might Have Just Seen the World's First Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Attack

Maybe Houthi rebels attempted an unprecedented move on a U.S. Navy Destroyer. Or maybe not.

www.popularmechanics.com

Hasilnya bisa ditebak...

Mungkin China nawarin ASBM ke Indonesia karena mereka tau kill chain dan ISR Indonesia di masa perang ga bakal jauh jauh amat dari Houthi wkwkw.

 

[NEKO]

Indonesia’s decision to increase defense spending by 20% next year shows that the country is prioritizing building up its armed forces and arsenal amid a U.S.-China rivalry in Southeast Asia, analysts said.

To guard against a potential escalation of regional tensions between the superpowers, Indonesia will need capital to replace outdated military equipment even as Jakarta has acknowledged it will have to rely on foreign loans to fund a bigger defense budget, observers said.

On Wednesday, Finance Minister Sri Mulyani Indrawati said that the defense budget would rise from U.S. $20.75 billion (321 trillion rupiah) to $25 billion (387 trillion rupiah), partly funded by foreign debt.

Indonesia to ramp up military spending amid regional security challenges

Southeast Asia’s largest country will boost its defense budget by 20%.

www.benarnews.org

Ini anggaran 20 milyar dollar anggaran tahunan pertahanan?
20 milyar (2023), 25 milyar (2024) ini udah bersih apa juga buat yang lain2?
Kemarin2 juga anggaran pertahanan (sebelum jamannya parbs) itu dibawah 10 milyar kan?

Ini boleh ini spending segini? Pake utang lagi.
Anggaran masih kecil tapi pengeluaran besar (pakai utang), ngitungnyya gimana nih? Defense budgetnya.

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731529807827988680

 

[NEKO]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731529807827988680

Bro...
Previously: Azerbaijan vs Armenia.
Now
Europe: Russia vs Ukraine.
ME: Israel vs Hammas.
Next
Latam: Venezuela vs Guyana?

 

[Umigami]

Bro...
Previously: Azerbaijan vs Armenia.
Now
Europe: Russia vs Ukraine.
ME: Israel vs Hammas.
Next
Latam: Venezuela vs Guyana?

Yeay... perang beneran setelah invasi lucu-lucuan di Grenada...
Wohooooooo.....