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What is the point of this seemingly suicidal attack against the Dutch, why not just submit? prolly some Pribumi if they had access to Twitter in the early 20th century after seeing the destruction of Kuta Reh.

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In every conflict there are always those defeatists who seem so smart, that they try to question what violence brings in the end.

Never cross their mind, It was through violence that countries and people gained their independence.
 

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As Allah SWT says in Qur'an when Benu Israel was called to fight in the Gods part " Wether is cold. Wether is hot , the enemy is too numerous etc " all excuses. Or when they were ordered to sacrifice a cow , young or old, sick or healthy etc etc. The story is old as are the excuses. It us not the right time or someone will suffer or etc etc.
I don't get the instructions from those.
 

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Boy, you forget the first part


by Gaza's "dissidents" and activists...that explains their negative opinion 😄

Selective memory losses are so prevalent in this last week of time . Be it Ukraine , Gaza or elsewhere ..

Sigh ..

What is the point of this seemingly suicidal attack against the Dutch, why not just submit? prolly some Pribumi if they had access to Twitter in the early 20th century after seeing the destruction of Kuta Reh.

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In every conflict there are always those defeatists who seem so smart, that they try to question what violence brings in the end.

Never cross their mind, It was through violence that countries and people gained their independence.

Not everybody born lucky enough as wolf and tiger . Some are just simply happy to be born as sheeps
Some called us a suicidal idiots . But , we simply try to adhere the teachings of not to be afraid more of death/richess over conviction
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Houthi Militia in Yemen Presents a Special Challenge for U.S.​



When Iranian-backed militias repeatedly targeted U.S. troops in Syria and Iraq this fall, the Biden administration struck back with force. Action was needed, officials said, to deter the groups from turning Israel’s conflict with Hamas into a wider war.
But the United States has not yet retaliated against one Iranian-backed group: the Houthis of Yemen.
In the past month alone, the Houthis have launched more than 100 attacks against commercial vessels in the Red Sea, crippling traffic there.
So why has the United States taken a different approach with the Houthis? The reasons are many.

What does the Gaza conflict have to do with the attacks in the Red Sea?​

The Houthis have launched missiles and drones at vessels in the Red Sea and seized an Israeli-linked ship during more than two months of war between Israel and Hamas.

Hamas and the Houthis are both backed by Iran.
A Houthi military spokesman, Yahya Sarea, said the attacks would continue “until the Israeli aggression against our steadfast brothers in the Gaza Strip stops.”
The U.S.S. Carney, a naval guided-missile destroyer deployed to the region to deter such attacks, has been busy. On one morning last weekend, the ship shot down 14 attack drones that the Houthis had launched at ships in the Red Sea.
On Monday, the Pentagon said it was establishing a multinational naval task force to protect commercial ships in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. The effort, to be known as Operation Prosperity Guardian, will include Britain, Canada, France and Bahrain — the only regional ally that has joined the effort.

While the United States has shot down drones, deployed a ship and created a task force to combat the Houthis, the one thing it has not done is strike at the militia in Yemen.

What are the Biden administration’s concerns about striking the Houthis?​

The Biden administration has debated whether to hit the Houthis. The decision has been “not yet,” for a number of reasons.

For one, several administration officials said, the United States is wary of disrupting a tenuous truce between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis, who spent the bulk of the last eight years at war. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in airstrikes and fighting, as well as from disease and hunger, since the conflict began.


A truce negotiated in 2022 has largely held even without a formal agreement.

The Biden administration is also deeply concerned that the war in Gaza could escalate into a wider conflict in the region.

Striking Houthi targets in Yemen — as opposed to just shooting down attack drones — could quickly escalate into a tit-for-tat between American naval vessels and the group, and could even draw Iran further into the conflict.
Tim Lenderking, the U.S. special envoy for Yemen, recently returned from the region, where he met with partners to discuss maritime security and formalizing the Saudi-Houthi truce.

“Everybody is looking for a way to de-escalate tensions,” Mr. Lenderking said in an interview. “The idea is not to engulf the region in a wider war, but rather to use the tools available to us to encourage the Houthis to dial back their reckless behavior.”

Why has the U.S. been less hesitant to strike at militias in Iraq and Syria?​

The Pentagon has said it will protect the 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq and 900 in Syria, who mostly help local forces fight remnants of the Islamic State. Dozens have been injured in the recent militia attacks, including 25 who suffered traumatic brain injuries.
“If attacks by Iran’s proxies against U.S. forces continue, we will not hesitate to take further necessary measures to protect our people,” Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III warned in October after American fighter jets struck two facilities linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and affiliated groups, which the Pentagon blamed for the drone and rocket attacks against U.S. forces.
None of the Houthi attacks have led to any American casualties, one official noted.
But the barrage has upended trade and prevented many ships from reaching Israeli ports. Some shipping and oil companies have been scared off and trade has been rerouted, a disruption that is expected to trigger higher prices for consumers.

So will the Biden administration take the gloves off?​

Possibly, if the attacks continue, military analysts said.
“In the Navy, we have a saying: ‘You don’t shoot the arrow. You shoot the archer,’” said Robert B. Murrett, a retired Navy vice admiral and former Naval intelligence officer who was the director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. “I’m sure the strike targets have been dusted off.”
But, he said, administration officials are asking themselves, “If you do that, will it be escalatory?”


The USA cannot hit the Houthis because it is afraid of starting a regional war. I have always said that the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf bring a price that the United States cannot bear. The reason why the US can so easily strike Hezbollah in Syria or Iraq today is that the price it can pay consists solely of military losses. However, a full-scale invasion or partial-scale bombardment is not an option in Yemen. Because in the war that breaks out in this region, the conflict zone will directly affect the world economy. This makes it impossible to get an easy victory. If you extend the conflict over the long term, you cannot bear the economic cost.
 

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Houthi Militia in Yemen Presents a Special Challenge for U.S.​



When Iranian-backed militias repeatedly targeted U.S. troops in Syria and Iraq this fall, the Biden administration struck back with force. Action was needed, officials said, to deter the groups from turning Israel’s conflict with Hamas into a wider war.
But the United States has not yet retaliated against one Iranian-backed group: the Houthis of Yemen.
In the past month alone, the Houthis have launched more than 100 attacks against commercial vessels in the Red Sea, crippling traffic there.
So why has the United States taken a different approach with the Houthis? The reasons are many.

What does the Gaza conflict have to do with the attacks in the Red Sea?​

The Houthis have launched missiles and drones at vessels in the Red Sea and seized an Israeli-linked ship during more than two months of war between Israel and Hamas.

Hamas and the Houthis are both backed by Iran.
A Houthi military spokesman, Yahya Sarea, said the attacks would continue “until the Israeli aggression against our steadfast brothers in the Gaza Strip stops.”
The U.S.S. Carney, a naval guided-missile destroyer deployed to the region to deter such attacks, has been busy. On one morning last weekend, the ship shot down 14 attack drones that the Houthis had launched at ships in the Red Sea.
On Monday, the Pentagon said it was establishing a multinational naval task force to protect commercial ships in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. The effort, to be known as Operation Prosperity Guardian, will include Britain, Canada, France and Bahrain — the only regional ally that has joined the effort.

While the United States has shot down drones, deployed a ship and created a task force to combat the Houthis, the one thing it has not done is strike at the militia in Yemen.

What are the Biden administration’s concerns about striking the Houthis?​

The Biden administration has debated whether to hit the Houthis. The decision has been “not yet,” for a number of reasons.

For one, several administration officials said, the United States is wary of disrupting a tenuous truce between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis, who spent the bulk of the last eight years at war. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in airstrikes and fighting, as well as from disease and hunger, since the conflict began.


A truce negotiated in 2022 has largely held even without a formal agreement.

The Biden administration is also deeply concerned that the war in Gaza could escalate into a wider conflict in the region.

Striking Houthi targets in Yemen — as opposed to just shooting down attack drones — could quickly escalate into a tit-for-tat between American naval vessels and the group, and could even draw Iran further into the conflict.
Tim Lenderking, the U.S. special envoy for Yemen, recently returned from the region, where he met with partners to discuss maritime security and formalizing the Saudi-Houthi truce.

“Everybody is looking for a way to de-escalate tensions,” Mr. Lenderking said in an interview. “The idea is not to engulf the region in a wider war, but rather to use the tools available to us to encourage the Houthis to dial back their reckless behavior.”

Why has the U.S. been less hesitant to strike at militias in Iraq and Syria?​

The Pentagon has said it will protect the 2,500 U.S. troops in Iraq and 900 in Syria, who mostly help local forces fight remnants of the Islamic State. Dozens have been injured in the recent militia attacks, including 25 who suffered traumatic brain injuries.
“If attacks by Iran’s proxies against U.S. forces continue, we will not hesitate to take further necessary measures to protect our people,” Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III warned in October after American fighter jets struck two facilities linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and affiliated groups, which the Pentagon blamed for the drone and rocket attacks against U.S. forces.
None of the Houthi attacks have led to any American casualties, one official noted.
But the barrage has upended trade and prevented many ships from reaching Israeli ports. Some shipping and oil companies have been scared off and trade has been rerouted, a disruption that is expected to trigger higher prices for consumers.

So will the Biden administration take the gloves off?​

Possibly, if the attacks continue, military analysts said.
“In the Navy, we have a saying: ‘You don’t shoot the arrow. You shoot the archer,’” said Robert B. Murrett, a retired Navy vice admiral and former Naval intelligence officer who was the director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. “I’m sure the strike targets have been dusted off.”
But, he said, administration officials are asking themselves, “If you do that, will it be escalatory?”


The USA cannot hit the Houthis because it is afraid of starting a regional war. I have always said that the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf bring a price that the United States cannot bear. The reason why the US can so easily strike Hezbollah in Syria or Iraq today is that the price it can pay consists solely of military losses. However, a full-scale invasion or partial-scale bombardment is not an option in Yemen. Because in the war that breaks out in this region, the conflict zone will directly affect the world economy. This makes it impossible to get an easy victory. If you extend the conflict over the long term, you cannot bear the economic cost.
@Kartal1 @Gary @Afif @Zafer
 

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The US made itself independent of energy imports therefore while the world economy suffers the US will not suffer directly. China will suffer bigtime as their imports from the gulf is big. However if the US is looking for a war in the China Sea it will avoid a big conflict in the gulf. The US holds outrageus scenarios in their mind and may want to take on multiple front conflicts, hard to tell what moves are in store.
 
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Th US made itself independent of energy imports therefore while the world economy suffers the US will not suffer directly. China will suffer bigtime as their imports from the gulf is big. However if the US is looking for a war in the China Sea it will avoid a big conflict in the gulf. The US holds autrageus scenarios in their mind and may want to take on multiple front conflicts, hard to tell what moves are in store.
Just because you have endless oil reserves does not mean that you can determine the price of oil. If you do not cut back on oil exports, you cannot have a reality independent of global oil prices. Therefore, when the price of gasoline is 15 dollars per gallon in the USA, it is not possible to continue this war if the USA will go bankrupt.
 

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War on Gaza: Why the oil market isn't freaking out about Houthi Red Sea attacks​




The oil market is keeping relatively cool as Houthi ballistic missiles and drones sputter across the Red Sea, confounding some experts who expected a bigger jump in energy prices.

The US says Yemen's Houthis have launched more than 100 drone and missile attacks on 10 commercial vessels in the Red Sea. The attacks have intensified in recent days and oil prices have nudged up.

Brent Crude, the international benchmark, settled up about 0.6 percent on Wednesday to $79.70 a barrel, advancing weekly gains of about 8 percent.

Still, experts had expected more dramatic price swings given the history of oil prices rising when conflict erupts in the Gulf region.

The Houthi attacks have been concentrated around the Bab al-Mandab Strait, a strategic choke point in the Red Sea where about nine percent of global crude oil and petroleum products pass through.

"The risk premium in oil markets simply hasn’t been as elevated as one would have anticipated," Karen Young, an expert at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy, told Middle East Eye.

"Where is all the panic and wild price swings?" asked Viktor Katona, an analyst at commodities data firm Kpler.

"I think the market is massively downplaying the impact of a Bab-al Mandab disruption," Katona said.

He told MEE that the market appeared to be complacent about disruptions in the Red Sea, noting that the monthly average flow of seven million bpd (barrels per day) of crude and oil products through the Suez Canal to the strait's north was on track to be cut in half in December.

But oil market fundamentals, a rewiring of global energy flows, and strategic calculations among the Houthis and their backers in Tehran, may be keeping prices in check, experts say.

Goldman Sachs vs the Houthis​

The Houthi attacks come as the oil market gushes with new supply, including in the US where production hit a new record. And tensions between Tehran and Washington over the war in Gaza haven’t dented Iran’s own soaring oil exports. Meanwhile, analysts are predicting weak oil demand.

“Energy passing through Bab al-Mandab is important to markets, but it’s not the whole story,” Jim Krane, an expert on energy studies at Rice University's Baker Institute, told MEE.

The Houthis - an Iran-backed group that captured Yemen’s capital Sanaa in 2014 and endured eight years of war against Saudi Arabia and its allies - hold a valuable chunk of real estate and Houthi officials have gleefully threatened to close the Bab al Mandab strait.

At its narrowest point, the strait is just 18 miles wide, limiting tanker traffic to just two two-mile-wide channels for inbound and outbound vessels. Although it’s an important choke point, the artery that most worries markets and policymakers is the Strait of Hormuz separating Iran from Gulf states, where up to 30 percent of the world’s consumed oil passes.

Analysts at Goldman Sachs believe that if the Houthis were to follow through on their worse-case threat to close the strait, crude prices would rise just $3 or $4 per barrel.

Energy giant BP announced this week it would pause all shipments through the Red Sea, citing a “deteriorating security situation”. Norway-based oil tanker company Frontline also said it is diverting vessels on a longer journey around Africa.

Armen Azizian, a crude market analyst at Vortexa, told MEE that tankers near the Yemeni coastline have begun pinging different locations to mask their position as a safety measure. Freight rates for tanker vessels travelling from the Middle East to Europe have also risen as a result of the attacks.

Those actions underscore concern about the Houthi threat with vessel owners and operators carrying energy supplies, “[but] it is overall unlikely that flows will be rerouted in a significant and persistent way,” Azizian told MEE.

Russian and Saudi vessels safe​

According to MarineTraffic data shared with MEE, on Tuesday evening there were 12 vessels carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) in the Red Sea and 182 carrying liquid cargo, including oil and gas. That is greater than the average number of vessels carrying such cargo before the Houthis started their attacks.

Fotios Katsoulas, a lead analyst for tanker shipping at S&P, told MEE the companies that have diverted around Africa represent just a small portion of the global fleet.

One reason could be that a big chunk of tankers operating in the Red Sea are carrying Russian crude. Since the war in Ukraine, Arab Gulf states have traded places with Russia in the oil market, redirecting their sales to Europe, while Moscow diverts its oil shipments to Asia.

The global rewiring of the energy trade has boosted tanker traffic in the Red Sea, but few in the industry believe it will come in the Houthis’ crosshairs.

“The increased activity in terms of tankers passing through the Suez Canal since last year is primarily due to the Russian barrels switching away from Europe and heading for India and China,” Katsoulas said.

“All these vessels will simply not be targeted.”

The Houthis say they are only striking Israeli-linked vessels, but some with little or no ties to Israel have been hit.

On Monday, the Norwegian owner of a vessel attacked by the Houthis said the group had relied on incorrect industry trade data to attack its vessel over false links to Israel.

Still, industry insiders and western officials say the Houthis have shown a sophisticated ability to pinpoint their strikes.

“The Houthis have been tremendously precise in not hitting non-western oil tankers,” Katona, at Kpler, told MEE. “There are a lot of Saudi, Iraqi and Russian tankers in the Red Sea and the Houthis haven’t hit a single one.”

The Red Sea has seen a spike in vessels transporting LNG from Qatar to Europe as a result of the invasion of Ukraine, but few expect the Houthis to strike those vessels given Doha’s cordial relations with Iran.

The Houthis have also refrained from hitting Saudi or Emirati oil infrastructure. In their note, analysts at Goldman Sachs said the limited risk to production so far was another factor keeping a lid on prices.

'Gulf states intimidated'​

On Tuesday, US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said it was clear Iran was providing “the means, the tools, the capabilities [and] the weapons” to the Houthis to conduct the strikes, but sidestepped when asked whether Iran was directing them.

A western military official who spoke with MEE on condition of anonymity said the Houthis’ targeting practice - which ironically may be keeping oil markets tame - pointed to much closer coordination between the group’s leadership and Tehran.

“The Iranian Revolutionary Guard are in Yemen in force,” the official said. “The sophisticated Houthi targeting would indicate close guidance.”

The Houthis are now engaged in direct talks with Saudi Arabia to turn a pause in Yemen’s fighting into a long-term peace deal, one that analysts say is likely to solidify the Houthis' grip on northern Yemen.

“There is a lot of calculation by Iran and the Houthis here,” Ali Alfoneh, a senior fellow at the Arab Gulf States Institute, told MEE.

“They have no reason to strike Saudi oil tankers right now,” he said.

On Monday, the US announced a beefed-up naval task force, Operation Prosperity Guardian, to safeguard vessels in the Red Sea. Only one Arab nation publicly signed on: the kingdom of Bahrain.

The Houthis warned on Wednesday they would strike back if they were attacked by US forces and cautioned their Arab neighbours not to join the coalition.

Gulf states are reluctant to join the group out of concern it would appear they are siding with Israel at a time when their people are outraged over the war in Gaza.

And while Saudi Arabia is concerned about the Houthi strikes, Riyadh is likely taking solace in the fact that its assets haven't been hit, experts say.

"Iran and the Houthis have managed to intimidate their Arab neighbours. The Gulf states have everything to lose picking a fight with Iran and Iran has nothing to lose. The Houthis and Iran have already won," Alfoneh said.

 

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The Gaza Mosque which the Zionist bastards destroyed dates back to the 7th century it got destroyed and repaired numerous times.

But the Ottomans are the last ones to restore it and repair it.

Another aspect of Ottoman history destroyed by the Zionists.
 

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It's been a week or more since israel issued the 48 hours ultimatum.

Good, I want the israelis to open the Northern front because as it stands the number of Israeli casualties per day is not to my liking. A few Kornet shots per day and you have like 1-2 israeli dead, opening a full-scale war in the Lebanese mountains would drastically spike those numbers to 20-50 killed per day as well as unleashing those hezbollah rockets to maul Tel Aviv and Haifa and make their life and economy even more miserable.
 

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According to the news of Japanese state television NHK, shipping companies "Nippon Yusen" and "Mitsui OSK Lines" changed the route of their ships departing and arriving in Europe. Ships will now head to South Africa without using the Suez Canal.
 

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This is definitely not gonna make the wrongs that Hamas members did (along with others) on 7th October right. But still weird and hard to wrap my head around. Based on previous testimonies and this one, For whatever reason, PR or something else, Hamas seems to be treating the hostages well so far. @Bogeyman @Kartal1 @Gary This one sounds almost too good to be true.
 
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