TR Turkish Defense Industry Companies

[Saithan]

Contract with foreign countries are as I recall in foreign currency, so there shouldn't be an issue. Let's see maybe the news are an attempt to undermine the company for a swift take over by RTE friends

 

[IC3M@N FX]

That's normal; it's called market consolidation. Just because you're an arms manufacturer doesn't mean you're bound to be successful.

There are approximately 3,000 to 3,500 arms companies in Turkey.

 

[TheInsider]

The economy is bad, and it will be even worse. No amount of fake numbers can save the Turkish economy. Turkey ranked first among OECD countries in terms of food inflation. Unless you solve food inflation, inflation is there to stay. Instead of fixing this, the government tries to fake numbers by giving calculation weight to unrelated goods when calculating inflation.

Food, rent, bills, and transportation hurt the average consumer the most. As you can see, these are basic necessities. There is no such country where the food is extremely expensive but the economy is good.

 

[Sanchez]

That's normal; it's called market consolidation. Just because you're an arms manufacturer doesn't mean you're bound to be successful.

There are approximately 3,000 to 3,500 arms companies in Turkey.

Not every company is equal, 80% of those are workshop level companies, merdiven altı as we say.

ATA and Armsan were pretty solid and large companies, with more than 50 years each under their belts. ATA was spending big and was also trying to enter real estate business to diversify few years ago. Bonuses for the dangerous jobs workers have to do probably shot up with inflation and they couldn't keep up.

 

[CAN_TR]

We have a lot of companies that are competing with each other, that's a waste of ressources.

SSB should immediately intervene and stop them from doing such bullshit investments, they should direct the companies more actively. Who needs 5 companies that produce armored vehicles? USV's? etc.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Not every company is equal, 80% of those are workshop level companies, merdiven altı as we say.

ATA and Armsan were pretty solid and large companies, with more than 50 years each under their belts. ATA was spending big and was also trying to enter real estate business to diversify few years ago. Bonuses for the dangerous jobs workers have to do probably shot up with inflation and they couldn't keep up.

So if you exhaust yourself with risky business ventures, that's more like mismanagement. You could have also manufactured industrial parts as an OEM to give yourself a second source of income.

To be honest, you could also export cheap security weapons to the Third World for paramilitary forces and armies. Of course, it's easier said than done, but the arms business is huge, and if you don't act stupid, everyone gets a piece of the pie, even if it's smaller than other companies.

 

[what]

ASSAN still shooting back

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958523530993102860

 

[TheInsider]

I told you. MKE wants Assan dead. This is the core of the drama.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I told you. MKE wants Assan dead. This is the core of the drama.

But why a state company want 'dead' another private company ?
The fight between companies happens when they are both private ...

 

[TheInsider]

But why a state company want 'dead' another private company ?
The fight between companies happens when they are both private ...

MKE is really concerned about Assan improving at a lightning-fast pace. After Assan acquired Dynaflow, Assan can now produce both the bomb/shell/rocket, filling (RDX, HMX, TNT, PBXN, composite explosives), and fuze. Assan became a vertically integrated company like MKE, and it has serious serial production capability that is ahead of MKE. MKE fears competition and wants to remain a monopoly.


ASSAN Group continues to fill explosive materials for warheads and rocket engines at the Warhead & Rocket Engine Production and Filling Facility (GEPAT) located in the production area established in Bolu/Gerede campus, as well as fuel and explosive development activities in R&D laboratories.

Facilities:
• Energetic Material Synthesis R&D Laboratory
• Large Scale RDX And HMX Production Line
• TNT Filling Plant for MK Series and 155 mm Artillery
• Rocket Engine Testing
• Rocket Assembly Infrastructure
• Environmental Test Infrastructure
• Smart Ammunition Assembly and Integration
• 9&6 MeV X-Ray Non-Destructive Testing Infrastructure

Product Spectrum:
• HMX, RDX, AP (Pilot production started in December 2023 with 60-100 Kg/day and ramping up)
• C4 (60 tons/year)
•850 tons TNT (current production)
• ~500 tons PBXN (current production)

Filling Capacity per year:
• 4 tons per day (cure cast/ PBXN & Thermobaric)
• MK Series Aircraft Bomb Filling (26.000 pcs. /year)
• Artillery and Mortar Ammunition Filling

Future Capacity:
• 155 mm Artillery Shell [360.00 pcs. /by the end of 2025/2026]
• TNT filling capability (2025) (10 tons/day)
• Annual HMX&RDX production (1.250 tons RDX/year, 350 tons HMX/year by the end of 2027). Huge capacity!

This is serious serial production might that is bigger than MKE.

Assan recently won a tender to provide Mk series bombs to the South Korean MoD. Assan is also the prime provider of fighter bombs to BAE and is setting up an ammunition production line. Why did MKE not offer its products in those tenders and why MKE lost those tenders if it offered its products? Assan is also establishing a fighter bomb production facility in Azerbaijan.

Türkiye's Assan to launch advanced bomb production facility in Azerbaijan | Caliber.Az

Turkish defence firm Assan is in the process of establishing an aerial bomb production facility in Azerbaijan, alongside ongoing ammunition sales to the country....

caliber.az

Türkiye, Güney Kore’ye uçak bombası satacak

ASSAN Group, IDEX 2025’te seri üretimi güçlendirme hedefini vurgularken, Güney Kore’ye MK serisi uçak mühimmatı satışı için anlaşma aşamasına geldi.

haber.aero

ASSAN Group, BAE'nin en büyük savunma ve havacılık şirketleri grubuyla sözleşmeler imzaladı

ASSAN Group, Birleşik Arap Emirlikleri'nin (BAE) en büyük savunma ve havacılık şirketleri grubu EDGE Group ve iştiraki LAHAB ile uçak bombası satışından mühimmat üretim hattı kurulumuna kadar birçok sözleşme imzaladı. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Assan catalog

Assan Group | PDF

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MKE signed a contract at IDEF to increase its RDX production 10 times to 500 tons/year. Competition is good for everyone. Without Assan providing real competition MKE wouldn't have signed this contract.

 

[begturan]

Because of MKE, we're at least 20 years behind in barreled weapons technology. ASSAN is the apple of the eye of the Turkish defense industry. The government should continue to support this institution; we're on the right track. Thanks to ASSAN, MKE is also forced to compete and improve, thus benefiting both companies in Türkiye.

In fact, MKE has begun to do well in the last five years. This change is either due to improved working mechanisms or to ASSAN pushing MKE to improve.

 

[uçuyorum]

The impression I get from everyone I listened to is, MKE is like a monopoly on certain munitions and caused us many issues in wars with shortages and quality. Gürcan Okumuş was fed up with SSB and MKE and after being forced to quit SAGE hedecided they will do serial production properly in ASSAN and now are almost humiliating mke with their rapid progress.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

MKE is really concerned about Assan improving at a lightning-fast pace. After Assan acquired Dynaflow, Assan can now produce both the bomb/shell/rocket, filling (RDX, HMX, TNT, PBXN, composite explosives), and fuze. Assan became a vertically integrated company like MKE, and it has serious serial production capability that is ahead of MKE. MKE fears competition and wants to remain a monopoly.


ASSAN Group continues to fill explosive materials for warheads and rocket engines at the Warhead & Rocket Engine Production and Filling Facility (GEPAT) located in the production area established in Bolu/Gerede campus, as well as fuel and explosive development activities in R&D laboratories.

Facilities:
• Energetic Material Synthesis R&D Laboratory
• Large Scale RDX And HMX Production Line
• TNT Filling Plant for MK Series and 155 mm Artillery
• Rocket Engine Testing
• Rocket Assembly Infrastructure
• Environmental Test Infrastructure
• Smart Ammunition Assembly and Integration
• 9&6 MeV X-Ray Non-Destructive Testing Infrastructure

Product Spectrum:
• HMX, RDX, AP (Pilot production started in December 2023 with 60-100 Kg/day and ramping up)
• C4 (60 tons/year)
•850 tons TNT (current production)
• ~500 tons PBXN (current production)

Filling Capacity per year:
• 4 tons per day (cure cast/ PBXN & Thermobaric)
• MK Series Aircraft Bomb Filling (26.000 pcs. /year)
• Artillery and Mortar Ammunition Filling

Future Capacity:
• 155 mm Artillery Shell [360.00 pcs. /by the end of 2025/2026]
• TNT filling capability (2025) (10 tons/day)
• Annual HMX&RDX production (1.250 tons RDX/year, 350 tons HMX/year by the end of 2027). Huge capacity!

This is serious serial production might that is bigger than MKE.

Assan recently won a tender to provide Mk series bombs to the South Korean MoD. Assan is also the prime provider of fighter bombs to BAE and is setting up an ammunition production line. Why did MKE not offer its products in those tenders and why MKE lost those tenders if it offered its products? Assan is also establishing a fighter bomb production facility in Azerbaijan.

Türkiye's Assan to launch advanced bomb production facility in Azerbaijan | Caliber.Az

Turkish defence firm Assan is in the process of establishing an aerial bomb production facility in Azerbaijan, alongside ongoing ammunition sales to the country....

caliber.az

Türkiye, Güney Kore’ye uçak bombası satacak

ASSAN Group, IDEX 2025’te seri üretimi güçlendirme hedefini vurgularken, Güney Kore’ye MK serisi uçak mühimmatı satışı için anlaşma aşamasına geldi.

haber.aero

ASSAN Group, BAE'nin en büyük savunma ve havacılık şirketleri grubuyla sözleşmeler imzaladı

ASSAN Group, Birleşik Arap Emirlikleri'nin (BAE) en büyük savunma ve havacılık şirketleri grubu EDGE Group ve iştiraki LAHAB ile uçak bombası satışından mühimmat üretim hattı kurulumuna kadar birçok sözleşme imzaladı. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Assan catalog

Assan Group | PDF

Scribd is the world's largest social reading and publishing site.

www.scribd.com

MKE signed a contract at IDEF to increase its RDX production 10 times to 500 tons/year. Competition is good for everyone. Without Assan providing real competition MKE wouldn't have signed this contract.

Than thats more state vs Assan tham MKE , because Mke is state company and his directors and other workers should not give a f*ck How many tenders MKE win or how much exports , Their Salary is fixed and they take it every month like every branch of Turkish state institutions or companies, Even if MKE export 10 billion € their director will take just his state salary so again why they fears competition !

 

[boredaf]

Than thats more state vs Assan tham MKE , because Mke is state company and his directors and other workers should not give a f*ck How many tenders MKE win or how much exports , Their Salary is fixed and they take it every month like every branch of Turkish state institutions or companies, Even if MKE export 10 billion € their director will take just his state salary so again why they fears competition !

That's true in countries that function properly, but, we are a kleptocracy. Things work with greasing palms and knowing the right people or kissing the right ring. Someone upsetting the apple cart is looked down upon in kleptocracies, status quo must not be disturbed or off the book "profits" might go down and that is unacceptable.

 

[Khagan1923]

shutter MKE down

 

[Ryder]

MKEs shitty quality also costed the lives of numerous Turkish soldiers.

Never forget.

 

[Khagan1923]

MKEs shitty quality also costed the lives of numerous Turkish soldiers.

Never forget.

MKE is the biggest reason this country lacks in barrel “tech”. The shell and bomb situation of the armed forces was in such a gutter for decades, remember us needing to emergency import shells from the South Koreans for ops inside Syria ?

Now that other companies are stepping up and rectifiying these problems they cry like a little child. I truly hope it’s get shuttered down and we don’t have to read about this embarrassment of a company anymore.

But it won’t happen due to it being in the hand of yandas’s and ASSAN will most likely slowly be dismantled by being sabotaged. Just for MKE to continue sabotage the armed forces and national security with their not even subpar performance.

 

[TheInsider]

There is a drama going on between MoD/Asfat and some private defense companies. There might be more developments. We might hear more in the future.

 

[Ryder]

MKE is the biggest reason this country lacks in barrel “tech”. The shell and bomb situation of the armed forces was in such a gutter for decades, remember us needing to emergency import shells from the South Koreans for ops inside Syria ?

Now that other companies are stepping up and rectifiying these problems they cry like a little child. I truly hope it’s get shuttered down and we don’t have to read about this embarrassment of a company anymore.

But it won’t happen due to it being in the hand of yandas’s and ASSAN will most likely slowly be dismantled by being sabotaged. Just for MKE to continue sabotage the armed forces and national security with their not even subpar performance.

MKE is bitching because there other better companies doing a better job than them now they using the gooberment to crackdown on the competition.

 

[OPTIMUS]

There is a drama going on between MoD/Asfat and some private defense companies. There might be more developments. We might hear more in the future.

A covert intelligence war is raging. And unfortunately, a political party was used as puppets by Germany.