TR Foreign Policy & Geopolitics

[Corvus]

Did he really say this?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2060129010911182975

I personally don't know much about this issue.

Could anyone please explain why this issue is controversial?

 

[what]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2061412283947856000

And then there is the news of the US Fed giving us a bailout similar to Argentina. He really likes him, but not enough to sell us F35s.

 

[Lool]

I wanted to post this here as a reminder that regardless of the lovely words that come out of EU nations towards Turkey; most harbor extreme fear towards the Turks and do dream of one day erasing them from existence. It is so ironic that even after a 100 years, the potential within the Turks is still scaring the hell out of EU


"I had a meeting with Helmut Kohl and he told me the future of Germany depends on the Turks and holding back the Turks. I told this to Chancellor Merkel — and again she didn't listen. And we see the results today."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2061857834388832618

 

[begturan]

I wanted to post this here as a reminder that regardless of the lovely words that come out of EU nations towards Turkey; most harbor extreme fear towards the Turks and do dream of one day erasing them from existence. It is so ironic that even after a 100 years, the potential within the Turks is still scaring the hell out of EU


"I had a meeting with Helmut Kohl and he told me the future of Germany depends on the Turks and holding back the Turks. I told this to Chancellor Merkel — and again she didn't listen. And we see the results today."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2061857834388832618

We have never had the intention of annihilating anyone. Neither before nor after Islam, in any region where we ruled, did we exterminate any race. But those countries that feared us committed these crimes against us in the Balkans, the Caucasus, Asia, and the Middle East.

In fact, the main reason they fear the Turks stems from the evils they have inflicted upon us; they believe that one day we will take revenge. the state in the south, in particular, which spreads fear of Turks throughout the world, is very worried that we will reclaim our lands.

If you constantly accuse someone of something they didn't do, one day they will do the very thing you fear.

 

[AlperTunga]

We have never had the intention of annihilating anyone. Neither before nor after Islam, in any region where we ruled, did we exterminate any race. But those countries that feared us committed these crimes against us in the Balkans, the Caucasus, Asia, and the Middle East.

In fact, the main reason they fear the Turks stems from the evils they have inflicted upon us; they believe that one day we will take revenge. the state in the south, in particular, which spreads fear of Turks throughout the world, is very worried that we will reclaim our lands.

If you constantly accuse someone of something they didn't do, one day they will do the very thing you fear.

Yes, if their paranoia and unnecessary hatred towatds Turks continue this way, their fears would self-realize.

 

[Huelague]

I wanted to post this here as a reminder that regardless of the lovely words that come out of EU nations towards Turkey; most harbor extreme fear towards the Turks and do dream of one day erasing them from existence. It is so ironic that even after a 100 years, the potential within the Turks is still scaring the hell out of EU


"I had a meeting with Helmut Kohl and he told me the future of Germany depends on the Turks and holding back the Turks. I told this to Chancellor Merkel — and again she didn't listen. And we see the results today."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2061857834388832618

You know that Helmut Kohl wants to assimilate the Turks. After the plan failed, he wants to deport or give financial incentives to Turks, to lead them back.

 

[Huelague]

Btw, the idea of Open Borders and Society, come from George Soros and not Angela Merkel.
OSF (Open Society Foundation). And NGO, ruled by G.Soros with many prominent German politicians. Just google it.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Tom Barrack's recent statements have caused some concern.

He has previously mentioned that Türkiye should veer away from being a nation state. And now his statements point towards a multi-ethnic, multi-religious model for Türkiye.

I believe Ümit Özdağ mentioned this years ago, he called AKP a partner of a pan-Abrahamic order. That might sound cultish, but really what it means is a middle east that's divided and controlled by pro-US leadership. Hence why we removed Assad, and why the US attacked Iran. It's all pretty obvious and out in the open, yet there's still a lot of people who think we're an independent actor.

Hakan Fidan also recently mentioned that he wishes to add Israel into a bloc after the war is finished

 

[TurkWolf]

yet there's still a lot of people who think we're an independent actor.

depends. I think we do punch well for our size and economy. We're independent enough to do a lot of things, but if you mean enough to remove US from MENA and takeover from them? Of course not. It's still kind of their backyard with the help of Israel and other Muslim nations.
US is not going to leave Middle East for a long time.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

I think we do punch well for our size and economy.

In 1974 was our economy great? Probably not.

How about in the 90s with the highly successful cross border ops? Our economy still wasn't necessarily great. It was 17th in the world by GDP, not much different than it is today.

The difference is we were taken much more seriously. When we threatened war, our neighbors often backed down. When Cyprus bought S300s, they got moved to Greece when we threatened them.

Now Southern Cyprus is freely arming up, and no amount of threats will stop them as our words don't mean anything anymore.

Erdoğan's constant saber rattling has completely removed the weight of threats. Everyone knows he just does it for domestic consumption.

Whilst there has been significant progress in the defence industry, it's not like we had nothing 30 years ago. We were making ballistic missiles, MLRS, APCs, etc.

Now in classic dictatorial style, Erdoğan sees all these projects as propaganda points. That's all it means to him. I believed 5 years ago that Misak-ı Millî would be pursued, now I'm seeing this is all bullshit. We're just reorganizing the middle east for Israeli and US gains.

Meanwhile PKK is politically stronger than ever.

 

[TurkWolf]

How about in the 90s with the highly successful cross border ops? Our economy still wasn't necessarily great. It was 17th in the world by GDP, not much different than it is today.

Truth is we haven't really improved much from the 90s to now. I mean fear wise to others. I'd say we're same . Just alright enough to keep others from harming us. Just not enough to fully remove the threats.
Thats how I see it anyways.

The difference is we were taken much more seriously.

But, are we not alright for a nation our size ? I mean, can we really just go to Iraq and take their oil and the world does nothing about it? just an example. No. We can't even remove PKK fully because we don't want the world to say mean words about us? or a strongly worded letter from EU/West.
We're like the big fish with couple more big fish in a small pond. the others being Israel and Iran I guess.

When we threatened war, our neighbors often backed down. When Cyprus bought S300s, they got moved to Greece when we threatened them.

I honestly do not care what happens in GC for example we know if any serious war happens those nations that're camped there won't lift a finger to help.
But, yes we're not that "strong" enough to dictate GC and tell them whats acceptable or not. Because this region still has USA and thats who most look for to lead/dominate.

Now Southern Cyprus is freely arming up, and no amount of threats will stop them as our words don't mean anything anymore.

Our words don't mean much now yes. but I feel that could change sooner rather than later though, thats why there's a lot of propaganda efforts on social media to demonize us Turks. So, we're clearly feared a little bit and on the right track.

Erdoğan's constant saber rattling has completely removed the weight of threats. Everyone knows he just does it for domestic consumption.

We're that nation that foreign nations don't fear too much and at the same time don't want us as an enemy. Thats how I see us right now, and potentially very feared in the near future.

We're just reorganizing the middle east for Israeli and US gains.

To be honest, don't think we got a choice. It's not like we can change anything right now. Hard to do anything when whole region pretty much in bed with Israel.

Meanwhile PKK is politically stronger than ever.

On that front we've become pathetic. for sure.

 

[Ryder]

The future lies in Asia and Africa.

Somalia is much more important to us than any Balkan country.

The Balkans doesnt offer anything but Somalia is a gateway to the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea.

Somalia and Turkish Cyprus can be linked to each other because its vital. Eastern Med connects to the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

 

[mehmed beg]

The future lies in Asia and Africa.

Somalia is much more important to us than any Balkan country.

The Balkans doesnt offer anything but Somalia is a gateway to the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea.

Somalia and Turkish Cyprus can be linked to each other because its vital. Eastern Med connects to the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.

The future for Turkiye lies in maximal development of alternative and nuclear energy, self sufficient and sustainable agriculture, bio tech medication development and arming to the teeth.
Also technical development of general population and preventing increase of the ageing population.
Simply trade with anybody else on the basis of qué pro qué.
Maybe proximity to the people who have some similarities.
The rest is time waist
Yes , you can send bit of money, food and open a school or two somewhere. Yes you can pay a nice amount to launch rocket to the space and that's it
Maybe once upon time, some sort of common ground could have been found but now?
Do you honestly want really close co-operations with the people who while living in USA need some sort of government assistance to 89% of them????
At end of the day, there is nothing that someone can do for some like that.
As we know and as we have been informed " Allah SWT won't change the situatuon of the people unless they change themselves".
" Closeness" should be very selective and I am not saying that it should be totally pragmatic but at least based on some form of decency .

 

[TurkWolf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2062234012194668923

America. Our allies.

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2062234012194668923

America. Our allies.

More our fault then theirs to be honest

 

[Corvus]

Tom Barrack's recent statements have caused some concern.

He has previously mentioned that Türkiye should veer away from being a nation state. And now his statements point towards a multi-ethnic, multi-religious model for Türkiye.

I believe Ümit Özdağ mentioned this years ago, he called AKP a partner of a pan-Abrahamic order. That might sound cultish, but really what it means is a middle east that's divided and controlled by pro-US leadership. Hence why we removed Assad, and why the US attacked Iran. It's all pretty obvious and out in the open, yet there's still a lot of people who think we're an independent actor.

His statements cause more concern among the Zionists, radical Kurdists, Armenians and Greeks as far as I can see.

They think he is a Turkish asset that is bringing American policies in line with Türkiye.

For example:

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/tom-barrack-turkey-iran-israel-hezbollah-middle-east-fd19addd

He has an unorthodox -yet correct IMO- approach to the Middle East and he doesn't talk diplomatically -he's not a diplomat anyways. That's why his statements can be disturbing for many parties. However, I believe his words and actions have been extremely pro-Türkiye so far. He facilitated the collapse of the so-called SDF and indirectly criticized Israel in many cases.

I personally agree with many of his observations & vision about the Middle East and Türkiye.

Hakan Fidan also recently mentioned that he wishes to add Israel into a bloc after the war is finished

He counted some requirements for this to be achieved. Such as acceptance of Palestian statehood by Israel -which is not going to happen. That's giving middle finger in diplomatic language.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

His statements cause more concern among the Zionists, radical Kurdists, Armenians and Greeks as far as I can see.

They think he is a Turkish asset that is bringing American policies in line with Türkiye.

For example:
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/tom-barrack-turkey-iran-israel-hezbollah-middle-east-fd19addd
He has an unorthodox -yet correct IMO- approach to the Middle East and he doesn't talk diplomatically -he's not a diplomat anyways. That's why his statements can be disturbing for many parties. However, I believe his words and actions have been extremely pro-Türkiye so far. He facilitated the collapse of the so-called SDF and indirectly criticized Israel in many cases.

I personally agree with many of his observations & vision about the Middle East and Türkiye.

The Trump administration is held by the balls by the Israeli lobby. Do you really think Tom Barrack is an outlier?

Israel doesn't want any strong nation states in the region. Syria is no longer a threat, HTS was literally funded by the CIA and today's Syria is absolutely not a threat to Israeli ambitions. Therefore YPG isnt needed anymore.

Meanwhile PKK has more political power inside Türkiye than ever before despite supposedly being dismantled. Also, I guarantee they're stacking up FPV drones as we speak.

Tom Barrack's embrace of Türkiye is like when the coalition backed the Istanbul government in the early 20th century...

 

[Sanchez]

Israel doesn't want any strong nation states in the region. Syria is no longer a threat, HTS was literally funded by the CIA and today's Syria is absolutely not a threat to Israeli ambitions. Therefore YPG isnt needed anymore.

Syria hasn't been a threat since 80s. The idea that YPG was a vice against Baath Syria is absurd; it never was.

 

[Huelague]

He has previously mentioned that Türkiye should veer away from being a nation state. And now his statements point towards a multi-ethnic, multi-religious model for Türkiye

Which we are from the very first beginning!

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2062234012194668923

America. Our allies.

WTF Türkiye still asking to buy F35 and showing itself like US puppy , just say 'we dont want F35' go faxk yourself USA , we dont need u , your aircraft or anything else from u . From president to ordinary citizens ,we should say this ...