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Yeteknoloji - ŞAHİ 209 Electromagnectic gun munitions development
35 mm round weighing 1.5 kg at a speed of over Mach 6 at a range of 50 km. This is considered Prototype 9, and is undergoing firing tests, some rounds having already being fire prior to IDEF. The 35 mm round is fitted with a discarding sabot, armour piercing and anti-personnel rounds being developed.
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Did A Turkish Combat Laser Shoot Down A Chinese Drone?
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On August 4, a Turkish-made laser weapon destroyed a Chinese-made Wing Loong II, an armed drone that’s China’s equivalent of the U.S. MQ-9 Reaper, according to Alexander Timokhin, writing for the Belgium-based site Army Recognition. Allegedly, the incident occurred during the Libyan Civil War, when Turkish-supported Libyan government forces used the laser to shoot down a Chinese-made drone supplied by the United Arab Emirates to the Libyan National Army, a rebel force commanded by Khalifa Haftar.

“For operators of the UAE-owned UAV Wing Loong II, a Chinese-made aircraft, this was an ordinary reconnaissance and combat mission,” Timokhin wrote. “Their drone armed with an anti-tank missile barraged over the Misurata area, conducting reconnaissance in the interests of Haftar’s troops and looking for targets that could be destroyed by a direct attack.”

“The Turkish installation, which shot down the UAV, is mounted on the chassis of an off-road armored car,” wrote Timokhin. “Like the earlier Aselsan model [a Turkish-made combat laser], it is equipped with a Turkish-made optoelectronic guidance system. The system allows you to accurately inspect the target for firing, to select a vulnerable point, and then hold the laser marker on this point until the target is completely destroyed. Also, as with the previously demonstrated laser gun, a continuous radiation mode is provided, without long interruptions to the "pumping" of the laser. The power of the gun is 50 kW[kilowatts]. This is so far the most powerful combat laser in the Turkish ground combat vehicle.”

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We literally need an experimental class of ships, at least one, to install all those futuristic weapons and test their adverse effects and use better ways of using those.
 

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Muzzle Energy Record from TUFAN Electromagnetic Railgun System

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December 11, 2019, at the opening ceremony of the Electromagnetic Launch System Development Laboratory established at Aselsan facilities, the muzzle energy record was broken during firings with the Electromagnetic Railgun System (TUFAN).

The efforts carried out by Aselsan on Electromagnetic Launch (EML) are progressing noticeably. The Aselsan Electromagnetic Launch System Development Laboratory, equipped with advanced development and test infrastructures, was opened with the participation of Prof. İsmail DEMİR, President of Defence Industries. During the tests performed at the opening ceremony, a record was broken by achieving the highest muzzle energy and efficiency level in this field in our country with muzzle energy above 1 MJ.

The laboratory has Flash X-Ray, Ballistic Projectile Recovery Tank for high-energy tests, a high-speed camera system, measuring sensors for advanced testing, modular, expandable pulsed power supply means and barrel systems suitable for advanced testing. Thanks to the facilities provided by the laboratory, most of the advanced development tests in the field of EML can be conducted without the need for an open field and the related sub-technology maturity levels will be increased with the equipment used.

Electromagnetic Launch (EML) is a cutting-edge technology in the world especially in the field of weapon systems. The weapons called “Railgun” developed using this technology will be effective over long distances and are seen as an important force multiplier in the defence field.

The ammunition fired from the barrel at high speed means that it can be fired at longer ranges than conventional weapons. The “Railgun” systems with the smart ammunition to be developed in our country can be used both as long-range land artillery and very influential air defence weapons.

The activities in our country regarding electromagnetic launch systems, which very few countries in the world work on, are being conducted by Aselsan, TÜBİTAK-Sage and Yeteknoloji under the coordination of the Presidency of Defence Industries.

 

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ARMOL successfully passed acceptance tests and was inducted into the inventory of the TurAF.


With the participation of the SSB, Aselsan, Roketsan , TÜBİTAK BİLGEM and Ermaksan, the Laser Technologies Center of Excellence was established and started operations.

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Turkey eyes directed-energy weapons as key priority​


Turkey’s top military commanders are pushing to prioritize directed-energy weapon programs following a decade’s worth of industry development in the field, a senior military officer has told Defense News.
“In recent months there have been briefings to update the top command on DEW efforts. Satisfied with where we stand, the command has recommended to establish an understanding to give priority to DEW programs,” the officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Several state-controlled and private Turkish companies have worked on direct-energy technology since 2010, and the positive results have impressed military planners.
“Turkish companies are relatively new in this specialized field, but their work so far has been spectacular,” the officer said. “The first 10 years was relatively challenging. The next decade will see exponential technological sophistication.”
Ozgur Eksi, an Ankara-based defense analyst, said that from an operational point of view, directed-energy weapons are meant to increase fire power, serve as a deterrent, and complement armed and unarmed drone warfare development.
“Drone warfare architecture may be the most critical operational use, especially for asymmetrical warfare inside Turkey or in cross-border operations [in Syria and Iraq],” Eksi said.
Turkey has been fighting Kurdish insurgents since 1984 — a conflict that has seen nearly 50,000 people die, including civilians. The Turkish military maintains an operational presence in northern Iraq and Syria, where Kurdish militants maintain strongholds.

As each Turkish-made directed-energy system becomes combat-proven, export potential will increase, a procurement official told Defense News. He said potential foreign customers include Azerbaijan, Pakistan, Qatar and some Southeast Asian countries.
“Turkish companies initially followed achievements of Chinese and Israeli DEW specialists,” according to a senior directed-energy weapons engineer working for a local state-controlled company. “But now their programs tend to evolve technologically independent. The next phase will focus more on advanced models and new systems.”
State-controlled missile-maker Roketsan unveiled in 2019 its first homemade directed-energy weapon, the Alka, that can destroy or disable hostile drones. Company officials say the effort was part of a response to the surge in drone attacks targeting Turkish troops.
The Alka is equipped with both a 50-kilowatt laser and electromagnetic systems to either destroy or disable drones. It purportedly uses automatic target recognition with both electro-optical and radar detection to simultaneously track multiple targets. The system is touted as being able to disable a swarm of drones at a range of 4,000 meters; destroy a target with a laser at 500 meters; and destroy a target at 1,000 meters with its electromagnetic weapon. It can also reportedly track targets at speeds as high as 150 kph with a precision of 8 milimeters from 1,000 meters away.
It took Roketsan five years to develop the system. Its engineers are now working to integrate the Alka into a portable system so it can be moved around with a dedicated truck.
“The mobile unit will be ideal to protect troops and operations, while the stationary system will offer protection for headquarters, bases, ships and other strategic points,” a Roketsan engineer said. One Alka unit has already been deployed to protect Roketsan’s production facility near Ankara.
On Aug. 4, 2019, an Alka system mounted on an off-road armored car shot down a Chinese-made Wing Loong II UAV in Misrata, Libya. In the Libyan civil war, Turkey supports the internationally recognized Government of National Accord.
Meanwhile, military electronics specialist Aselsan, Turkey’s largest defense company, has developed the LSS laser defense system. The LSS primarily targets mini- and micro-drones up to 500 meters away as well as improvised explosive devices up to 200 meters away. The stationary system can be used on naval platforms, power plants, air bases, border patrol stations and convoy routes.

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Some of the system’s features include infrared and high-definition cameras, a laser range finder, an optical focuser, a multiple target-tracking capability, laser blanking signal output (used to benefit radio frequency capabilities), and laser masking (meant to protect a system from residue left behind after a laser is used).
“LSS was developed and manufactured nationally without being subject to any license or export permit from a foreign manufacturer,” an Aselsan official said. “Soon the system will be in intense use in the Turkish military, especially in anti-insurgency operations in Syria and Iraq.”
In 2019, Aselsan inaugurated its Electromagnetic Launch System Development Laboratory, equipped with a flash X-ray capability, a ballistic projectile recovery tank for high-energy tests, a high-speed camera system, sensors and local power supplies.
That same year, the locally developed, vehicle-mounted fiber laser system ARMOL completed its acceptance tests and entered the military’s inventory. The 400-kilogram (881-pound) laser system was mounted on a Cobra armored vehicle, along with target acquisition hardware and a control terminal.
In 2020, the governmental procurement agency Presidency of Defence Industries spearheaded efforts to launch the now-operational Laser Technologies Center of Excellence — another sign of Turkey’s growing footprint in the field of directed energy.
 

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*The Technology Readiness Level (TRL) is a scale to assess the development stages which was introduced in 1988 by NASA and is nowadays considered a standard scale in development of future technologies.

TRL 1. basic principles observed
TRL 2. technology concept formulated
TRL 3. experimental proof of concept
TRL 4. technology validated in lab
TRL 5. technology validated in relevant environment
TRL 6. technology demonstrated in relevant environment
TRL 7. system prototype demonstration in operational environment
TRL 8. system complete and qualified
TRL 9. actual system proven in operational environment

TUBITAK BILGEM

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
YGLS-5000-SM20kW variant TRL 620kw variant
50kw variant
System is scalable 50kw+
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20kW laser development completed. In field tests it melted 3mm steel from 1.5km. Disabled drone, UAV cameras from 5km. 50kW tests are continuing. System can be scaled up more than 50kW.
ARMOLTRL 61+ kW
System is scalable up to 5kw
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1st Prototype
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2nd Prototype
1st prototype was effective up to 500m
2nd prototype acceptance test was done in July 2019.
TÜMOLTRL 6200w
System is scalable up to 500w
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is effective up to 100-150m. Can be used against IEDs and could be used against slow, stationary flying micro/mini drones. Battery lasts up to 30 minutes.

Aselsan

NameStatusTypeImageDescription
LSSTRL 6-71.25kW variant
2.5kW variant
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Two different variants in development, 1.25kW and 2.5kW. Successfully tested against different type of IEDs, drones and UAV cameras.

Roketsan

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
ALKATRL 8Micro/Mini C-UAS, C-IED DEW
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In serial production. Laser is effective up to 500m. Can neutralize micro/mini UAV, IED threats. Different, advanced variants in development. Current variant can track targets at 1km with 8mm precision.

Meteksan

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
NazarTRL 8DIRCMN/A
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Main goal of the project is to develop DIRCM for the Turkish Navy.

Tech Development Programs

IŞIN Project
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High powered laser system development program. YGLS project is developed under this program.
NAZAR LETS
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TM DOPED Fiber Laser Development under Meteksan and Bilkent
 
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*The Technology Readiness Level (TRL) is a scale to assess the development stages which was introduced in 1988 by NASA and is nowadays considered a standard scale in development of future technologies.

TRL 1. basic principles observed
TRL 2. technology concept formulated
TRL 3. experimental proof of concept
TRL 4. technology validated in lab
TRL 5. technology validated in relevant environment
TRL 6. technology demonstrated in relevant environment
TRL 7. system prototype demonstration in operational environment
TRL 8. system complete and qualified
TRL 9. actual system proven in operational environment

TUBITAK BILGEM

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
YGLS-5000-SM20kW variant TRL 620kw variant
50kw variant
System is scalable 50kw+
View attachment 22313 20kW laser development completed. In field tests it melted 3mm steel from 1.5km. Disabled drone, UAV cameras from 5km. 50kW tests are continuing. System can be scaled up more than 50kW.
ARMOLTRL 61+ kW
System is scalable up to 5kw
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1st Prototype
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2nd Prototype
1st prototype was effective up to 500m
2nd prototype acceptance test was done in July 2019.
TÜMOLTRL 6200w
System is scalable up to 500w
View attachment 22300 is effective up to 100-150m. Can be used against IEDs and could be used against slow, stationary flying micro/mini drones. Battery lasts up to 30 minutes.

Aselsan

NameStatusTypeImageDescription
LSSTRL 6-71.25kW variant
2.5kW variant
View attachment 22302 Two different variants in development, 1.25kW and 2.5kW. Successfully tested against different type of IEDs, drones and UAV cameras.

Roketsan

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
ALKATRL 8Micro/Mini C-UAS, C-IED DEW View attachment 22310 In serial production. Laser is effective up to 500m. Can neutralize micro/mini UAV, IED threats. Different, advanced variants in development. Current variant can track targets at 1km with 8mm precision.

Meteksan

NameStatusTypePower OutputImageDescription
NazarTRL 4DIRCMN/A
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Main goal of the project is to develop DIRCM for the Turkish Navy.

Tech Development Programs

IŞIN Project View attachment 22301 High powered laser system development program. YGLS project is developed under this program.
NAZAR LETS View attachment 22303
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TM DOPED Fiber Laser Development under Meteksan and Bilkent
Who tells Nazar is TRL 4 :).
It is at least 6, we can bargain for 8 and i will let it for 7.
 

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Railgun or Electromagnetic gun is a novel idea. Definitely there is huge potential in the technology. But it is expensive, cumbersome and comes with a bunch of technical difficulties such as power needs and guidance electronics that are very hard to ignore and solve in short time.
US is moving away from the technology and axing the development of railgun going forward in favour of the hypersonic weapons. Particularly the C-HGB (common hypersonic glide body) .
If US is giving up on this project I wonder how feasible it will be for us to continue with it.
With C-HGB tests, they are seeing 17mach speeds and 1700mile ranges. Railgun at best would have given them a 100mile range. With Chinese, having ship killer missiles in their arsenal, could easily pick out these ships from a 100mile distance when they come in to fire their railguns.

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Railgun or Electromagnetic gun is a novel idea. Definitely there is huge potential in the technology. But it is expensive, cumbersome and comes with a bunch of technical difficulties such as power needs and guidance electronics that are very hard to ignore and solve in short time.
US is moving away from the technology and axing the development of railgun going forward in favour of the hypersonic weapons. Particularly the C-HGB (common hypersonic glide body) .
If US is giving up on this project I wonder how feasible it will be for us to continue with it.
With C-HGB tests, they are seeing 17mach speeds and 1700mile ranges. Railgun at best would have given them a 100mile range. With Chinese, having ship killer missiles in their arsenal, could easily pick out these ships from a 100mile distance when they come in to fire their railguns.

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They are dropping it because they have reached technological maturity to deploy it when needed and found it to be not feasible with current mass-avalailable tech or not needed with the current conjuncture. It will take them half a decade to test and deploy it at field when it becomes necessary or feasible.
For us, we are at the starting point and we can invest some to keep studies going on to mature in the technology and application.
 

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They are dropping it because they have reached technological maturity to deploy it when needed and found it to be not feasible with current mass-avalailable tech or not needed with the current conjuncture. It will take them half a decade to test and deploy it at field when it becomes necessary or feasible.
For us, we are at the starting point and we can invest some to keep studies going on to mature in the technology and application.
Actually they found that they won’t have any ships until 2030 apart from 3 Zumwalt destroyers , to put these guns on. Also in order to hit anything they need to be 100miles from the target. China’s long range missiles would not allow them to be that close. Although Zumwalts are “Stealthy” , it is not feasible to continue with this technology further for the sake of 3 ships.
Yes you are right they have reached maturity with current given capabilities in railgun tech. They are putting it in the back burner for the time being.
I thought the possibility to fire, with pinpoint accuracy, hypersonic projectile rounds from 127mm and 155mm guns was more interesting than railgun.
 

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