The above is part of reason AFAIK, Karachi airport has now re-opened (it is southern enough etc). Pakistani OSINT friend I trust tells me most other airports (to the north in Pakistan) are closed.
India also has closed a large number of airports in North India for a few days...
It has to do with whats mentioned in this release here mostly, that mTT posted:
That India says drone + missile attacks occurred (past the artillery barrages at LoC and "conflict window kept open for another phase etc etc") and were responded to... (and also whatever else may be going on that...
Have to go work and will be busy for a while.
Everyone keep to the forum rules and take everything "ongoing" with requisite grains of salt etc
We can only piece together things downstream more objectively.
There are some engagements going on over Jammu right now, we will have to see what that all is later.
The problem is its a heavy drone attack too it seems, so have to give time to play out again.
Would it be safe to say currently Pakistan claims 5 - 6 (depending on whether a heron is included) shootdowns (whether by IAD or CAP).
....and we have at least 3 - 4 objective wreckage sites on Indian side....with one very likely a Rafale.
The rest we will have to wait for more details and...
There is apparently a very large drone attack (harops and maybe other kind of loitering drones) going on right now in a number of Pakistani towns and cities.
We will see what this all is later.
Its somewhere earlier in thread.... there was mirage 2000 looking cone one and there was at least one more with russian ejection seat (so mig or suk) and i think one more russian ejection seat one that was different too....but not 100% sure.
Maybe another member can post these.
Bro please accept the crashfootages objectively at least: 2 in kashmir and the 1 in Bathinda.
The last one has clear m88 engine and other confirmation posted earlier:
A senior French intelligence official has confirmed to CNN that one Indian Air Force Rafale fighter jet was shot down by...
He is serving a short thread ban till he gets those flags changed....and also for spamming things like "8 fighter planes down" that even Pakistan doesn't claim.
Members are again advised to FOLLOW THE RULES.
You are simply focusing on the material losses as be all end all, rather than what happened on the ground and what Pakistan perceives that (and how is it to respond to it)....w.r.t what changed this time and why.
It is why I keep bringing up the larger air campaigns vs one-offs. There have been...
Yup its all about force level 1 vs force level 2...both size and sharpness of each...and is it something sustained or is it one-off (or start and stops etc)
These influence everything results wise. Each context is different.
One must also study very closely the level of force level the US (SEAD and DEAD) used against Iraqi IAD network in GW1.
Then what had changed at that point from the strategies used in rolling thunder and linebacker.
These are air campaigns of far higher intensity and scale (and considerable...