Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

Woland said:

Ukraine has had 5 democratically elected presidents since 2000: Kuchma, Yuschenko, Yanukovich, Poroshenko, Zelensky. Each with differing platforms and ideas. For the past 25 years, Russia has had two, and that's if we're counting Medvedev as an independent president rather than Putin's placeholder. The comparison is absurd, and you well know that, but instead prefer to position yourself as Russia's cheerleader.

Ukraine is in martial law, has a significant portion of its population and land under occupation, is under existential threat, would need to dedicate significant resources to organizing an election (approximately $200 million), and would place the lives of its citizens at risk if they were to congregate in large numbers at voting places across the country. Ukraine's constitution provides that elections cannot be held in such a case, and this part has been in Ukraine's Constitution from before the war.

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What is past is the past, Ukraine's democracy doesn't survive war, Russia's one does. Ukraine uses its martial law to not only roll back on freedom and democracy but also to roll back on human rights, men (and women) are dragged on the street in broad daylighs.

The Western occupation army in Afghanistan insisted that the Afghan government move on with elections even though there's always the threat of Taliban bombings in polls, why can't they do the same in Ukraine ?

Literally, a nice post summarising the catastrophe we are in

Mr Sachs forgets that Sweden is a member of the european union and it is a meaningful mistake, since Russia started the war precisely because Ukraine wanted to join the EU.

Andrew Perpetua's visually confirmed and geolocated losses for Russia and Ukraine, Friday, March 15th.

Nexter is planning to open an ammunition plant in Indonesia, producing firstly 120mm tank rounds, then 30, 105 and 155mm artillery rounds.

I like the idea, France help us make an ammo factory, and in return, we should earmark some of the production capacity to help them fill the need for Ukraine. Win-win.

How's that attack on Belgorod? Did Oleksandr 'the butcher ' Syrski ordered it ?

This + no democracy.

Mexico + North Korea in Europe

Another one


Just to understand and grasp how many were attacked.
Most importantly part is that all of them are not operational or are in repair state


By the way ruzzia goverment is discussing to import fuel and gas from iran. This will be short term situation, but nevertheless ruzzia is in shortage state

paid soliders fighting on ruzzian side.
According to them, the salary is about $2,700 per month. As long as they can go back alive and work for a year!
If they survive, we know the true only small part of them survive and take the money. All others just die and get nothing.

By the way Nepal has the largest population, send to die for putin in other word they die for nothing. Estimated at 15,000

Ecderha said:

Another one

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768873365836599576

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768874948980777053

Just to understand and grasp how many were attacked.
Most importantly part is that all of them are not operational or are in repair state

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768931632843550948

By the way ruzzia goverment is discussing to import fuel and gas from iran. This will be short term situation, but nevertheless ruzzia is in shortage state

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The average Russian citizen is extremely poor. If Ukraine can continue to damage Russian refining capacity to the point that domestic gasoline prices soar, that will disproportionately impact the average Russian to the point that the government may have to step in and subsidize costs so that the people can survive. That's less money that Russia will have to spend on their war effort.

Ukraine has already achieved one objective. They've done enough damage that they've forced Russia to ban the export of petroleum products and and distilates for a period of 6 months, out of fear for domestic shortage. That's billions of dollars worth of foreign profits that Russia won't receive this year. Even more importantly, that's billions of dollars worth of foreign currency that Russia won't have flow into its economy. Nobody wants the Ruble. It's Monopoly money. It's not worth anything. Forcing Russia to further exhaust their foreign currency reserves will not only hurt their ability to trade internationally, it will further inflate the Ruble, damaging their purchasing power.

This inside ruzzia.
ruzzian tank razes the houses of ruzzian citizens to the ground.
It is attempt to squeeze out the Russian Volunteer Crop fighters.
Main issue is that putin soliders do not know that in this houses there are no soliders at all, but it is not clear is it there are ruzzian citizens

Relic said:

The average Russian citizen is extremely poor. If Ukraine can continue to damage Russian refining capacity to the point that domestic gasoline prices soar, that will disproportionately impact the average Russian to the point that the government may have to step in and subsidize costs so that the people can survive. That's less money that Russia will have to spend on their war effort.

Ukraine has already achieved one objective. They've done enough damage that they've forced Russia to ban the export of petroleum products and and distilates for a period of 6 months, out of fear for domestic shortage. That's billions of dollars worth of foreign profits that Russia won't receive this year. Even more importantly, that's billions of dollars worth of foreign currency that Russia won't have flow into its economy. Nobody wants the Ruble. It's Monopoly money. It's not worth anything. Forcing Russia to further exhaust their foreign currency reserves will not only hurt their ability to trade internationally, it will further inflate the Ruble, damaging their purchasing power.

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You misunderstanding following:
1. russian government <- there are no such thing. It is like this -> putin and mafia circle controling all. (there are no laws or state institutions. All are obeying what putin circle command)
2. If and only If you are citizen living in moscow and saint petersburg then subsidize costs so that the people can survive is applied.
3. All other regions are already poor. people living there were poor before the war and will be poor, living as poor after.
4. Money and monopoly is a Fact before War and after the War will go to same overloards/oligarchs
5. There were never election (I mean what you know as election). It is theater farce, Neo-Despot allways win. There are no opposition, if any try to oppose despot he/she is killed or in prison and killed.
In this case putin is despot so he will win with not 100% but with 120-180% .This is to show to all out there to GET IT RIGHT. They mean to show that despot POWER is in sync and undisputable


Besically west people do not have a idea how ruzzian live. Only if you live in moscow and saint petersburg there is some kind of standard. Other that it is just survivel and people have to learn what is to be poor.

President Macron will send French soldiers to Ukraine. "Russia cannot and must not win this war ...
There will be French troops in Ukraine.
There will be no red lines. I am the president of France and I decide."

Gary said:

What is past is the past, Ukraine's democracy doesn't survive war, Russia's one does. Ukraine uses its martial law to not only roll back on freedom and democracy but also to roll back on human rights, men (and women) are dragged on the street in broad daylighs.

The Western occupation army in Afghanistan insisted that the Afghan government move on with elections even though there's always the threat of Taliban bombings in polls, why can't they do the same in Ukraine ?

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More laughingly absurd statements followed by whataboutism.

Russians and Ukrainians are not the same. While Russians accepted as their government regressed from some semblance of democracy in the 1990s to dictatorship, Ukraine had two revolutions. In 2004, an attempt at election rigging sparked the Orange Revolution, and resulted in a recount that led to Yushchenko becoming president. The second, the Maidan Revolution in 2014, toppled a government after it reneged on earlier promises and tried to crush protests with riot police using live ammunition.

The Maidan Revolution peaked at 1 million protesters in Kyiv (a city of 3.5 million), among them the many different sides of Ukrainian civil society and members of parliament. Meanwhile the largest protests in Moscow totaled 50,000, despite Russia launching multiple wars, killing multiple opposition leaders and sliding further and further into dictatorship. And obviously Russia's protests never involved members of parliament, since Russia hasn't had any opposition in government since 2010.

Woland said:

More laughingly absurd statements followed by whataboutism.

Russians and Ukrainians are not the same. While Russians accepted as their government regressed from some semblance of democracy in the 1990s to dictatorship, Ukraine had two revolutions. In 2004, an attempt at election rigging sparked the Orange Revolution, and resulted in a recount that led to Yushchenko becoming president. The second, the Maidan Revolution in 2014, toppled a government after it reneged on earlier promises and tried to crush protests with riot police using live ammunition.

The Maidan Revolution peaked at 1 million protesters in Kyiv (a city of 3.5 million), among them the many different sides of Ukrainian civil society and members of parliament. Meanwhile the largest protests in Moscow totaled 50,000, despite Russia launching multiple wars, killing multiple opposition leaders and sliding further and further into dictatorship. And obviously Russia's protests never involved members of parliament, since Russia hasn't had any opposition in government since 2010.

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Why always hide behind whataboutism accusation? Why not straight up admit that Ukraine is no longer a democratic society? How hard is it to admit that Russia has a working democracy even though imperfect?

The true measure of one's beliefs is when one clings into those ideals even if one finds it uncomfortable, that's why they're called principles. And you guys have no principles whatsoever. Afghanistan has elections under threat of Taliban bombings, I don't see why the powerful West can't make sure Ukraine do the same, especially since Zelensky is nearing the end of his term.

Don't ask it from me, Kyiv major, Vitaliy Klitschko laments multiple times in interviews that Zelesnky is killing democracies and is in the process of making himself Ukraine's leader for as long as possible. He even bribed Valerii Zaluzhny huge sums of money to retire and not challenge him in politics or even elections because he knew that Zaluzhny's popularity would meant the end of his rule.


Like I said, the irony of this war is Russia turning out more democratic than Ukraine and able to take the risks of having an election (and losing) in the middle of a war. That is something commendable coming out of Putin, a surprise to outside observers that is used to the idea of a dictatorial tendencies in Putin.

Looks like another destroyed Abrams