Live Conflict Iran-Israel Conflict (2025)

Rooxbar · Jun 16, 2025

The bs spewed by this dumbfuck Halil Özsaraç on Doğu Perinçek's T.V. channel "Ulusal Kanal" is being used for propaganda purposes against our country by official IRGC channels. These Eurasianist dumbasses are a national security threat (along with YRP and Hüdapar).

سپاه سایبری پاسداران IRGC 🏴

💢سرهنگ سابق ارتش ترکیه فاش میکند که ناتو، ترکیه و آمریکا به طور فعال به اسرائیل کمک می‌کنند ▪آنها از ایستگاه رادار ناتو در کورچه، در استان مالاتیا، جنوب شرقی ترکیه، برای رهگیری موشک‌های بالستیک ایرانی که به سمت اسرائیل شلیک می‌شوند، استفاده می‌کنند." سپاه سایبری پاسداران👇🏻 ☑️ @SEPAHCYBERY

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hugh · Jun 16, 2025

The aging of our airforce fleet is forcing us to go Iran route, namely, missile proliferation. It should be a short-term solution, hopefully.

BREAKING: Turkish President Erdogan:

We’re now planning missile production to raise our medium- and long-range stockpiles to a credible deterrent level.

Soon, we’ll reach a defense capacity that no one will dare challenge.

We’ve entered the phase of producing our systems in quantities that truly reinforce our deterrence.

If you’re not strong politically, socially, economically, and militarily, you lack deterrence—and you’re vulnerable.

As a nation, we’d rather die than live in shame. Better to rest with honor beneath the soil than live dishonorably above it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934643246346449400

Afif · Jun 16, 2025

hugh said:
The aging of our airforce fleet is forcing us to go Iran route, namely, missile proliferation. It should be a short-term solution, hopefully.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934643246346449400

Tbh, these are imperative regardless of the state of AF.

But I am a bit skeptical about the acquisition scale and the process of TSK.

Realistically speaking, a credible deterrent stockpile of 1000 Tyfun and 500 chenk should be available by 2033 ideally. That would require multi-billion dollars contracts. Like the Poland is doing it.

While Turkish defence industry continue to deliver azmaning top of the line solutions and capabilities, TSK's resources for procurement of those at scale seems to be limited. This is reflected in the number of AD systems that has been ordered so far imo.

Recents conflicts makes it clear that there is no alternative to quantities. Technology provide edge in a different way but does not substitute for quantities.

Strong AI · Jun 16, 2025

hugh said:
The aging of our airforce fleet is forcing us to go Iran route, namely, missile proliferation. It should be a short-term solution, hopefully.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934643246346449400

Let's assume we would have the most modern Air Force in our region right now, so in this case you wouldn't want us to produce Tayfun and Cenk en masse? Why? Or did i misinterpret you?

MaciekRS · Jun 16, 2025

Iranian army looks REALLY pathetic right now.
Israel air forces 1500 km from home are doing whatever they want. I didnt expect that.

Pokemonte13 · Jun 16, 2025

Afif said:
Tbh, these are imperative regardless of the state of AF.

But I am a bit skeptical about the acquisition scale and the process of TSK.

Realistically speaking, a credible deterrent stockpile of 1000 Tyfun and 500 chenk should be available by 2033 ideally. That would require multi-billion dollars contracts. Like the Poland is doing it.

While Turkish defence industry continue to deliver azmaning top of the line solutions and capabilities, TSK's resources for procurement of those at scale seems to be limited. This is reflected in the number of AD systems that has been ordered so far imo.

Recents conflicts makes it clear that there is no alternative to quantities. Technology provide edge in a different way but does not substitute for quantities.

i'm hoping next year that further contracts are going to be signed. i think army wanted to evaluate and design a doctrine that suits them best and every year now budget is going up i mean 2023(23$) 2024(41$) 2025(47) also aselsan and roketsan are investing heavily into their production capabillity with new production sites luckily for us their managment is capable

Sanchez · Jun 16, 2025

nick.f76 said:
Greece is in NATO, so Turkey will not attack it... Oh, wait...

Cyprus is an EU country, so Turkey will not occupy half the island/official EU country for 50 years... Oh, wait...

Turkey and Greece haven't been in war since 1924, and haven't been actively shooting each other since 1974 after Greek coup and invasion of Cyprus failed. So yes, two being in NATO do keep the tensions down.

nick.f76 said:
Cyprus is an EU country, so Turkey will not occupy half the island/official EU country for 50 years... Oh, wait...

Onus there is on EU for accepting a country with unresolved territorial and governmental disputes against their own rules.

mehmed beg · Jun 16, 2025

nick.f76 said:
Greece is in NATO, so Turkey will not attack it... Oh, wait...

Cyprus is an EU country, so Turkey will not occupy half the island/official EU country for 50 years... Oh, wait...

Wait, Cyprus wasn't in EU 1974? Or maybe, you know something that I don't?

hugh · Jun 16, 2025

Strong AI said:
Let's assume we would have the most modern Air Force in our region right now, so in this case you wouldn't want us to produce Tayfun and Cenk en masse? Why? Or did i misinterpret you?

Ofc we'll serially produce ballistic missiles regardless of the ongoing wars. But he's speaking of gaining deterrence via these missiles, the same mindset Iranians had with their numerous stockpile. It didn't save Iranians and wouldn't improve our deterrence that much unless we equip them with nuclear warheads. I read it as it's the best we can do in the short-term.

Angry Turk !!! · Jun 16, 2025

MaciekRS said:
Iranian army looks REALLY pathetic right now.
Israel air forces 1500 km from home are doing whatever they want. I didnt expect that.

Turks with a brain knew that a long time ago but somehow outsiders from god knows where tend to think they know that region better.

The thing is you need to be good in many aspects and have to overwhelm your enemy from multiple angles at once and that constantly. That way you certainly get a higher probability of winning a war. Not with spamming less and less BMs when it gets dark...

Türkiye has still lots of work infront of it but is in no way comparable with Iran. Besides BMs, they have NOTHING of relevance.

Sanchez · Jun 16, 2025

Angry Turk !!! said:
Turks with a brain knew that a long time ago but somehow outsiders from god knows where tend to think they know that region better.

The thing is you need to be good in many aspects and have to overwhelm your enemy from multiple angles at once and that constantly. That way you certainly get a higher probability of winning a war. Not with spamming less and less BMs when it gets dark...

Türkiye has still lots of work infront of it but is in no way comparable with Iran. Besides BMs, they have NOTHING of relevance.

I don't think anyone doubts that.

hugh · Jun 16, 2025

Afif said:
Tbh, these are imperative regardless of the state of AF.

But I am a bit skeptical about the acquisition scale and the process of TSK.

Realistically speaking, a credible deterrent stockpile of 1000 Tyfun and 500 chenk should be available by 2033 ideally. That would require multi-billion dollars contracts. Like the Poland is doing it.

While Turkish defence industry continue to deliver azmaning top of the line solutions and capabilities, TSK's resources for procurement of those at scale seems to be limited. This is reflected in the number of AD systems that has been ordered so far imo.

Recents conflicts makes it clear that there is no alternative to quantities. Technology provide edge in a different way but does not substitute for quantities.

I don't know much about the different ballistic missile products of Iran. Do you know how many ballistic missiles did Iranians have(or claims to have) that are equivalent to Tayfun and Cenk in range and(or) in payload if I may ask?

Rooxbar · Jun 16, 2025

Sanchez said:
Turkey and Greece haven't been in war since 1924, and haven't been actively shooting each other since 1974 after Greek coup and invasion of Cyprus failed. So yes, two being in NATO do keep the tensions down.

Onus there is on EU for accepting a country with unresolved territorial and governmental disputes against their own rules.

Ask for the most maximal thing, conflict ensues; surprised pikachu face.

TR_123456 · Jun 16, 2025

MaciekRS said:
Iranian army looks REALLY pathetic right now.

Nothing new,remember the 300+ missiles sent to Israel by Iran?
No Air Force no Navy no Air Defence,just an Army of 2 million with obsolete equipment.
Of the 2 million 90% would give up fighting when shit hits the fan.
Not paper tiger but paper clip Army.

Bogeyman · Jun 16, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934633614915879318

In the US, MAGA members are against war with Iran. They fear the end of the US.

TheInsider · Jun 16, 2025

Unless the US improves its financial position, I don't think the US can launch an Iraq-style invasion. Air campaign will be the limit of the US involvement.

Sanchez · Jun 16, 2025

TheInsider said:
Unless the US improves its financial position, I don't think the US can launch an Iraq-style invasion. Air campaign will be the limit of the US involvement.

I think US economy is like the third or fourth thing they are thinking about for such a plan. Noone wants another forever war, especially against a country of 90 million.

Bogeyman · Jun 16, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934709198471700886

Bogeyman · Jun 16, 2025

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1934710188126130235

TheInsider · Jun 16, 2025

This looks like a coordinated attack. Various branches of the Iranian forces are involved, and the attack wave consists of drones, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles. This is sad because only after days, the branches of the Iranian forces come together and coordinate some sort of attack.

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