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IC3M@N FX said:

Why are we putting up with this crap? They can keep their SAFE, Eurofighter, F-16/35.
It's time to make a clean break and turn to countries that really deliver, while doing our own thing. Once we've reached a certain level of technological maturity, these countries will come crawling back to us.

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The procurement of 12 C-130J military transport aircraft from the United Kingdom has been finalized.

Ministry of National Defense:

As part of the efforts to procure 12 C-130J aircraft from the United Kingdom to meet the operational needs of our Air Force Command, the aforementioned aircraft have been delivered to the relevant company for maintenance and modernization.

Following maintenance and modernization in the United Kingdom, the aircraft will be gradually incorporated into the inventory of our Air Force.

Furthermore, the maintenance and servicing of the C-130J aircraft will be carried out using domestic and national resources after Type Training.

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mTT said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1978759909417087325

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1. Eurofighter Purchase:
   • Turkey is working to buy Eurofighter jets.
   • The UK, Italy, and Spain support the deal.
   • Germany had resisted but has now given preliminary approval.
   • German Foreign Minister is visiting Turkey; Eurofighter is a key topic.
2. Qatar Eurofighters:
   • There are claims that 24 Tranche 3A Eurofighters from Qatar may be transferred to Turkey.
   • This came up during a visit by Turkey’s Defense Minister to Doha.
   • The Turkish Defense Ministry confirmed they’re exploring options for modern aircraft until the domestic KAAN fighter is ready.
3. U.S.-Turkey Defense Relations:
   • A U.S. Congressional Research Service (CRS) report calls Turkey a "swing state" balancing relations with NATO, Russia, China, and the West.
   • The report revisits the F-35 issue—Turkey was removed in 2019 due to its purchase of Russian S-400 systems.
   • Six F-35s built for Turkey remain unused.
4. F-16 Deal:
   • A $23 billion package includes 40 new Block 70 F-16s and upgrades for 79 existing jets.
   • Turkey wants integration of its own weapons and access to the software.
   • With local modernization of the 79 jets, the cost may drop to $7 billion.
   • U.S. Congress has given general approval, but discussions on technology sharing continue.
5. Return to F-35 Program & U.S. Demands:
   • Turkey still wants to rejoin the F-35 program and is negotiating with the U.S. on regional issues.
   • Turkey is offering economic incentives like Boeing aircraft orders and LNG purchases.
6. KAAN Fighter Jet:
   • The KAAN jet will initially use U.S.-made F110 engines.
   • Turkey aims to switch to the locally developed TF-35.000 engine later.
7. C-130J Transport Aircraft:
   • Turkey is buying 12 second-hand C130J planes from the UK.
   • They will be refurbished and delivered starting in 2026.
   • These will strengthen Turkey’s airlift capabilities, especially for disaster response.
8. Tanker and Special Mission Aircraft:
   • Turkey’s KC-135R tankers are aging.
   • New special mission aircraft are being developed with TUSAŞ and ASELSAN, including the HAVA SOJ and updates to the Peace Eagle fleet.

Strong AI said:

1. Eurofighter Purchase:
   • Turkey is working to buy Eurofighter jets.
   • The UK, Italy, and Spain support the deal.
   • Germany had resisted but has now given preliminary approval.
   • German Foreign Minister is visiting Turkey; Eurofighter is a key topic.
2. Qatar Eurofighters:
   • There are claims that 24 Tranche 3A Eurofighters from Qatar may be transferred to Turkey.
   • This came up during a visit by Turkey’s Defense Minister to Doha.
   • The Turkish Defense Ministry confirmed they’re exploring options for modern aircraft until the domestic KAAN fighter is ready.
3. U.S.-Turkey Defense Relations:
   • A U.S. Congressional Research Service (CRS) report calls Turkey a "swing state" balancing relations with NATO, Russia, China, and the West.
   • The report revisits the F-35 issue—Turkey was removed in 2019 due to its purchase of Russian S-400 systems.
   • Six F-35s built for Turkey remain unused.
4. F-16 Deal:
   • A $23 billion package includes 40 new Block 70 F-16s and upgrades for 79 existing jets.
   • Turkey wants integration of its own weapons and access to the software.
   • With local modernization of the 79 jets, the cost may drop to $7 billion.
   • U.S. Congress has given general approval, but discussions on technology sharing continue.
5. Return to F-35 Program & U.S. Demands:
   • Turkey still wants to rejoin the F-35 program and is negotiating with the U.S. on regional issues.
   • Turkey is offering economic incentives like Boeing aircraft orders and LNG purchases.
6. KAAN Fighter Jet:
   • The KAAN jet will initially use U.S.-made F110 engines.
   • Turkey aims to switch to the locally developed TF-35.000 engine later.
7. C-130J Transport Aircraft:
   • Turkey is buying 12 second-hand C130J planes from the UK.
   • They will be refurbished and delivered starting in 2026.
   • These will strengthen Turkey’s airlift capabilities, especially for disaster response.
8. Tanker and Special Mission Aircraft:
   • Turkey’s KC-135R tankers are aging.
   • New special mission aircraft are being developed with TUSAŞ and ASELSAN, including the HAVA SOJ and updates to the Peace Eagle fleet.

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German Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul:

Germany and Turkey face major challenges in enhancing NATO's defense capabilities in Europe.

We have decided that Turkey can increase its deterrence as an ally with the help of Eurofighter aircraft. This is in our interest.

Turkey is a key strategic partner for us within the NATO alliance.

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Sanchez said:

Finally some updates on this front.

Company in question is Marshall Aerospace based in UK, most probably. All 15 aircraft were being kept near their hangar since 2023:

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Now my question is, what will the transfer really entail; there are some really nice specimens in the ex-RAF fleet, like the C-130J4 RAF 47 SQN used for special forces missions, equipped with AN/AAQ-24 DIRCM. Being an American system, it is possible that this might be removed if the said aircraft is one of the ones to be transferred. Most aircraft are also equipped with American MWRs as well, which air force would probably would like to change with Aselsan ones.

Well after the program is concluded and aircraft are delivered to TurAF, there'll be work to do.

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Turkiye Acquires 12 Used C-130J Transport Aircraft from RAF - Defence Security Asia

Turkiye is reportedly set to acquire 12 second-hand C-130J transport aircraft from the Royal Air Force (RAF), which have been in storage since their retirement last year, in a move to enhance its tactical airlift capabilities.

defencesecurityasia.com

Marshall Aerospace secures C-130J support contract with Turkish Ministry of National Defence​

Marshall Aerospace secures C-130J support contract with Turkish Ministry of National Defence - Marshall Group

The Turkish Ministry of National Defence has awarded Marshall Aerospace a major contract to support its fleet of newly-acquired Lockheed Martin C-130J Super …

marshallgroup.com

Fairon said:

Wonder if we also consider the C27s after the C130Js? They use the same engine (different variants, though I'm not sure how different they are), we have good relations with Italy in the aviation sector, and they can reduce the C130's workload for loads that are just outside the C235's capacity but not worth using the C130 for.

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Sanchez said:

"The Turkish Air Force, which is closely interested in the C-130J Super Hercules Transport Aircraft, which will be decommissioned by the British Royal Air Force in 2023 in order to support the C-130BM/EM Fleet, sent a delegation to the UK to inspect the aircraft and held preliminary discussions on cooperation within the scope of the project. In the first phase, it is planned to transfer 8 C-130J-30 (C4, with extended fuselage) and 2 C-130J (C5, with standard length fuselage) Super Hercules Transport Aircraft from RAF stocks to the Turkish Air Force after undergoing the necessary maintenance, repair and overhaul procedures (FASBAT), Later on, the number of aircraft was revised as 12 (2 of which will be used as spare parts), all of which will be C-130J-30s, but the number of aircraft was re-determined as 10 aircraft (all long-body C-130J-30 versions) based on the airframe/structural condition of the aircraft. The contract was expected to be signed by the end of this year"

Air force as usual can't reach consensus, but C-130J deal is progressing well.

"The CN235s in the inventory are very worn out and have spare parts and sustainment problems. Some of them will undergo avionic modernization, some of them will be decommissioned in the future, perhaps they will be sold, and if the budget is available, they will be replaced by an estimated 20-25 new production C295 or C-27J aircraft. Of course, this will be realized on a 10-year timetable. In the first phase, 10 C-130Js are expected to be delivered between 2025 and 2027..."

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Sanchez said:

Sünnetçi wrote about a smaller aircraft to bridge the gap and replace some capability that will be lost with aging C-235s last year.


C-27 would be a good pick for the air force on engine alone, but C-295 also uses the same engine Navy ATRs do; so there's that as well.

Remembering this post, new C-130J number is given as 12. So the number is again increased to 12, or are the +2 still for spare? We don't know.

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Pokemonte13 said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/800231235389943808

Whats going on?

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Strong AI said:

Look at the date...

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TheInsider said:

Turkiye wants to buy 24 Tranche 3A aircraft from Qatar and 16 new Tranche 4 from the UK. There is simply not enough money to buy brand new 40 Eurofighters.

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