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You started to destroy permanently IRGC with the ayatolies, you miserably failed. Now you people threaten to finish the job without americans, with out epstein trump you are nothing. Now he is going to lose the election he stopped the war. IRGC will heal ther wounds and will get stronger. Now the santions will be lifted partly:D...
 

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It is hard to believe US agree to pay $300 billion to Iran, even the agreement will be break by Israel just like before.
That is mean US had lost this war.
 

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It is hard to believe US agree to pay $300 billion to Iran, even the agreement will be break by Israel just like before.
That is mean US had lost this war.
From what I read it says the allies agreed to finance reconstruction cost up to 300 billion USD. So if you ask me, I am pretty damn sure US is going to wipe that burden on KSA, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait and even Qatar.

This is due to the US bases in these countries that contributed to attacking Iran. Maybe US will take some of the debt as well because they started the whole damn thing with Israel.

But let's see I imagine that the investment the mentioned arab countries were going to make in US might end up going to settling the debt.

Personally I think these arab countries should push to reduce US troops on their soil and not permit weapons of attack to be deployed and only defence measures. After what happened. But considering how much they were at the mercy of what Iran was capable of I imagine they will pay US for keeping bases and such.
 

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Iran deal presents political nightmare for Netanyahu​


The US ceasefire agreement with Iran has presented Israel's prime minister with a political nightmare, smashing the three cornerstones of Benjamin Netanyahu's political career, and leaving him trapped in a new security dilemma.

How can the man who styled himself as the political whisperer of Washington, with real influence over American politicians, be sidelined quite so comprehensively and insulted so publicly by his key US ally?

How can the man who made taking on Iran the centre-piece of Israel's security policy end the war with Iran's regime arguably in a stronger position?

And how can his old, tarnished political image as Israel's "Mr Security" survive the demand from Washington and Tehran that Israel cease attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon, months before an Israeli general election?

The options facing Netanyahu now are not good. They were summarised by the opposition leader, Yair Lapid, in the Knesset on Monday as "either a direct and destructive confrontation with our greatest ally, or a submissive surrender of Israeli interests".

The expletive-laden assessment by US President Donald Trump that Netanyahu showed no judgement when ordering a strike on Beirut on Sunday has been seized upon by his political rivals and media commentators, already focused on the election that must be held before the end of October.

But comments from members of Netanyahu's own Likud party, and far-right cabinet ministers in his governing coalition, also show the pressure he faces from his own side - most sharply over the demand from Tehran that the ceasefire covers "military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon".

"Trump's agreement does not bind us," Israel's far-right national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, wrote on social media on Monday. "We are not partners to this agreement that does not ensure our security."

"Israel will continue to protect itself," Likud lawmaker Ariel Kallner told me, though he would not clarify whether that meant Israel would continue its attacks.

"We will do what we need to do. And we expect our friends to understand us," he said. "Sometimes there are disagreements between allies, and allies should also understand their allies when they are in danger."

Sima Shine, a former Mossad official and Iran specialist said: "It's difficult to understand why the Americans accepted it.

"By allowing Iran to decide what will happen in Lebanon, the US is giving Iran the possibility to continue to support Hezbollah, and to make sure that Hezbollah is a major political actor in the Lebanese arena.

"Israel is not happy with that – neither the security establishment, nor the political," she said.

Amid the cacophony of criticism and outrage from across the political spectrum, Israel's prime minister bristled at suggestions from journalists on Monday night that he had failed.

"I have devoted most of my adult life to one goal—preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons," he said during a press conference in Jerusalem.

"We will do what is necessary. I do not limit myself in any way on this goal: Iran will not have nuclear weapons."

But he also admitted there were cases in which he and Trump saw things differently.

"I have expressed my views in discussions, but we have our own interests: first, no nuclear threat; second, Lebanon - we created a buffer zone and will remain there as long as necessary," he said.

"Iran wanted us to withdraw - that did not happen. You know why? Because I stood very firm. Our American allies respect that determination. We also insist on preserving our operational freedom - if we are attacked or threatened, we respond."

Often quick to claim victory, Israel's prime minister now faces a difficult task in deciding his next steps.

Security has been the cornerstone of Netanyahu's offering to voters for decades. That is an increasingly difficult message to deliver.

His response to the devastating Hamas-led attacks on 7 October 2023 was to shift Israel's security policy to a more aggressive approach – pre-empting threats rather than containing them.

Changing the Middle East by removing the threats Israel faced was his solution to that crisis.

But even though Israeli forces have demolished much of Gaza and killed more than 73,000 people, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, Hamas is still in control of half the territory and reasserting its power there, while a US-brokered peace plan and a US-appointed administration for Gaza remain stuck in limbo, eight months after Israel and Hamas agreed a ceasefire.

AFP via Getty Images Palestinians carry the bodies of Imad Salim, also known as Abu Hassan, a senior commander in Hamas' armed wing, and others during a funeral procession in Gaza City last month. Men in black are pointing to the sky while some are waving green flags.


Hamas remains in control of half of Gaza
Netanyahu's new approach to security has left Israeli forces occupying large areas of Gaza, Lebanon and Syria. That's popular with many Israelis and unlikely to end before the election, but is also stretching Israel's military resources and reservists to breaking point, with no clear diplomatic pathway out.

Repeated rounds of conflict with Hezbollah and the Iranian regime have not eliminated Israel's key enemies, but left Tehran in the hands of more hardline leaders, with less fear of US-Israeli might, and greater leverage through the Strait of Hormuz.

Now Israel's arch-enemy appears to be the one with influence over Israel's key ally.

"Israel's failure requires a renewed assessment of its strategy towards Tehran. [It] must formulate more realistic and restrained priorities," according to Danny Citrinowicz, a senior Iran researcher at Israel's Institute for National Security Studies (INSS).

"Any Israeli military move perceived in Washington as an attempt to sabotage the agreement is expected to encounter a harsh response from the US, he said in an article for the daily newspaper Israel Hayom.

"Unlike during the Obama administration, when Benjamin Netanyahu could try to bypass the White House by mobilising support in Congress and in US public opinion, those options barely exist at this time."

Netanyahu's pitch to Israeli voters has long been that his policies and political skills are the best protection from regional threats; that promise looks increasingly overtaken by events.

Regime change in Iran might have rescued his political image and his election narrative. Instead, his new security approach has left him facing the choice of confrontation or surrender, not with an enemy, but with an ally.

 

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It is hard to believe US agree to pay $300 billion to Iran, even the agreement will be break by Israel just like before.
That is mean US had lost this war.

With the anglo-american zionist axis, much of what the public is allowed to see in my in mind is no more then theatre. The agenda to balkanise the region is old, its not originally a Jewish agenda, its a British/French agenda that was taken over by the USA and then pushed most aggressively via proxy that is the fictitious isreali state, whose people are mostly of eastern european origin who found Judaism because of the Khazar Turk ruling class who instituted it at the time of the 7th century.

A good example of this agenda is the support of the pkk and creating a kurdistan. It never changed course over the decades, didn't matter who was in power and the media attention it got incrementally kept inching more and more towards communist terrorists being the good guys and NATO ally Turkiye being the islamist enemy.

Anyway, the point is this "conflict" of ambitions is just a smokescreen, the americans/isrealis are entirely on the same page. Sometimes they play this game either to deceive their enemies, to deceive their domestic populations, or sometimes they realise they have to take a step back because their foe has made good moves. B ut taking a step back here and there to make further gains in the future, is still the same agenda playing out.

So the americans sell the illusion of trying to find a deal, full well knowing isreal will break the deal. But the key in this that whenever isreal breaks the deals they face no consequences from their allies for it. No sanctions, no embargoes, no reduced support. So why wouldn't they break they the "deals?".

Its illusion, there is no conflicts between the USA/Isreal, at this point they are one and the same thing.

As much as i would love to see these filthy Epstein class criminals fail in their regional wars, i've seen too much to know to never to fall for it.

People should also remember the anglo-american axis destroyed Ghaddafi by first making him believe they are accepting him back into the international fold.
 

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You started to destroy permanently IRGC with the ayatolies, you miserably failed. Now you people threaten to finish the job without americans, with out epstein trump you are nothing. Now he is going to lose the election he stopped the war. IRGC will heal ther wounds and will get stronger. Now the santions will be lifted partly:D...
No one said we will destroy IRGC. That's typical strawman. Here what I actually said in the beginning of the war (11 March):

BTW I don't think Trump wants a regime change. He just wants to make some deal. That's why he is not attacking their main assets, to leave it as negotiation card.
And I was right.

BTW in 12 day war Israel acted practically alone vs. Iran. We destroyed their air defense achieving air superiority, killed their top generals, hundreds of IRGC, destroyed their major nuclear sites and missile bases. All they could do is kill some civilians in Israel.
 

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No one said we will destroy IRGC. That's typical strawman. Here what I actually said in the beginning of the war (11 March):


And I was right.

BTW in 12 day war Israel acted practically alone vs. Iran. We destroyed their air defense achieving air superiority, killed their top generals, hundreds of IRGC, destroyed their major nuclear sites and missile bases. All they could do is kill some civilians in Israel.
And , you didn't win, did you?
 

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BREAKING: President Trump publicly rebukes Israel over its war against Hezbollah.

"Israel's fighting Hezbollah too long and too many people are being killed."

Trump said he opposed strikes that destroy apartment buildings filled with civilians and revealed he urged Israel to let Syria take the lead against Hezbollah instead.

"If Israel can't do the job without killing everyone else, he'll do the job. Syria will do the job."

 

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Start of 2026 Iran was an oppressive state oppressing its people.

March 2026 US and Israel attack Iran. provoking death and destruction in Iran, Israel, Lebanon, states of the Gulf and Palestine (murders by Jewish settlers) and provoking closure of the strait of Hormuz, severely disrupting world energy supply.

June 2026 Iran is an oppressive state oppressing its people.
Iran may at any point close the strait of Hormuz again.

The war was a great idea, wasn't it?
 

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Start of 2026 Iran was an oppressive state oppressing its people.

March 2026 US and Israel attack Iran. provoking death and destruction in Iran, Israel, Lebanon, states of the Gulf and Palestine (murders by Jewish settlers) and closure the strait of Hormuz, severely disrupting world energy supply.

June 2026 Iran is an oppressive state oppressing its people.
Iran may at any point close the strait of Hormuz again.

The war was a great idea, wasn't it?
It ain't finished yet. Netanyahu may pull some kind of joker to start the fire again. The only thing that hasn't been bombed yet (and is of value) is the energy infrastructure.
 

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And , you didn't win, did you?
We dropped about 15,000 bombs on Iranian military targets without losing a single soldier or plane. Thats good enough.

We also saved Syrian people from real genocide carried by Iran. First when we pushed Trump to end the Obama deal and second when we destroyed Hezbollah.
 

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We dropped about 15,000 bombs on Iranian military targets without losing a single soldier or plane. Thats good enough.

We also saved Syrian people from real genocide carried by Iran. First when we pushed Trump to end the Obama deal and second when we destroyed Hezbollah.
The question is ALWAYS, what exactly you have won, and what exactly you have lost.
 

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No one said we will destroy IRGC. That's typical strawman. Here what I actually said in the beginning of the war (11 March):


And I was right.

BTW in 12 day war Israel acted practically alone vs. Iran. We destroyed their air defense achieving air superiority, killed their top generals, hundreds of IRGC, destroyed their major nuclear sites and missile bases. All they could do is kill some civilians in Israel.


You maybe not but your goverment wanted tople down the regime, whit what intention did you started the war and with what did you end?
 

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You maybe not but your goverment wanted tople down the regime, whit what intention did you started the war and with what did you end?
Any sane person on earth wants to topple down the Iranian regime.
 

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Read the 14-point draft agreement between the US and Iran





The agreement between Iran and the US lays out the terms of the ceasefire between the bitter rivals, the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, some financial relief for Iran and a reiteration from Tehran that it will never produce a nuclear weapon, according to a draft copy of the text obtained by CNN.

The 14-point memorandum of understanding has not yet been officially released but a copy of it was obtained by CNN from a US official. A diplomat who saw it at the G7 summit in France this week confirmed its contents, as did two other diplomatic sources with knowledge of negotiations.

Given both the US and Iranians’ secrecy around the language, it remains unclear whether the draft text shared with CNN will reflect the exact wording of the final document due to be signed in person on Friday in Switzerland. Technical details are also being finalized so the wording could still shift. A White House spokesperson said the text did not reflect the actual memorandum.

Under the draft agreement, the US will allow Iran to sell its oil and petrochemical products, and Tehran may be able to tap into a $300 billion development fund if it meets commitments related to its nuclear program in further negotiations. The document does not include specifics on what will become of Iran’s highly enriched uranium.

The US official told CNN that the text reflects the agreement signed digitally by President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Iranian parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf on Sunday.

Speaking to CNN, US officials have downplayed the significance of the memo itself, calling it a “political document” that does not reflect critical back-channel commitments Iran has made to the US, specifically on the future of Tehran’s nuclear program. The White House did not respond to a request for comment when presented with the draft obtained by CNN. The semi-official Iranian news agency Tasnim described leaked versions of the draft as inaccurate. Bloomberg earlier published a version of the draft.

The MoU is due to be formally signed Friday, triggering a 60 day-window to negotiate the final terms of a deal.

Below is the text in full:

1 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.

2 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.

5 — Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.

6 — The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.

7 — The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran’s nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.

9 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.

10 — The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.

11 — The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.

12 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.

13 — Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.

14 — The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.

This story has been updated with additional information.


Obviously, a surrender agreement, or rather, an instrument of surrender.
I had considered the possibility of US's defeat, but reality has already surpassed imagination.
 

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Fighting between the Israeli army and the Lebanese Hezbollah group continues. Video footage shows Hezbollah FPV drone strikes on Israeli Merkava Mk.4M tanks, M113, and Namer armored personnel carriers. The first FPV drone strike on an Israeli M109 155mm self-propelled gun was also recorded. The video was filmed in southern Lebanon. It's worth noting that the Israeli military has acknowledged that there is currently no effective, universal solution to FPV drone threats. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the launch of a "special project" to counter the drone threat.

 
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