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PYD/PKK/SDF post could be translated as such.

"We will keep our weapons and organisation because we will fight Israel."

Perhaps Israel attacking the airbase is an excuse created for PYD/PKK/SDF.

In short they will not disband or dissolve. Which could mean they could pick up arms against Türkiye anytime again. while waiting for geography changes in their favor. Another excuse to not lay down arms. We will see how things unfold.
 
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Islamists are good goyim to them. Angry, scared, self destructive. Israel would only want peace with a Kemalist Türkiye as it would get utterly destroyed otherwise.
Yeah the pattern with Islamist. They want all to be scared of Israel.
Any wonder why EU loves AKP so much. nice little servants of Israel.
Israel is just like Russia you cant reason with them. Heck this entire region the Balkans, Middle East, Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. They are all the same. We get no where with condemnations and barking.
And we need a strong leader for this. Erdogan is a coward.
Unless we counting defeating the mighty Libya and Syria as his glorious victories
"We will keep our weapons and organisation because we will fight Israel."
Yeah, I believe them so much.
 

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Again. Islamist are so fearful of Israel/Israelis like this MS Sandhu guy , they immediately expect us Turks especially Kemalist to be fearful too.

Israelis have their strong points. and i don't want to underestimate them. But lets be real, we Turks are a different breed to Arabs and other Islamic people. We wouldn't run away to Sweden to do protest in Stockholm .
In the first grade of elementary school, I used to think that my class was the best, strongest, and coolest class simply because I was in it. Then we had a football tournament, and the class next door absolutely crushed us. That was the day I realized that idea that "my group is better because I'm in it" was wrong.

After I was 17–18, I started entering international environments. I have lived in five countries, visited more than 40 countries, been to war zones, and talked in person with people who had fought in wars and with victims of war.

All I can say is that any average-IQ person who manages to get their head out of their own village and compare themselves with others can see how childish and ridiculous what you are saying is. Even if you don’t have the means to experience these things yourself, being the worst team in the World Cup-the sport we care about most-should be enough to make you understand that we are not a "different breed".

It's interesting how some people never develop the mental capacity to compare, learn lessons and empathize.
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Israel is not an enemy to underestimate, even the sole fact that they nuclear weapons is enough to be cautious with them. We are dealing with an irrational-messianic bunch with extreme power and connections all over the world.
 

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All I can say is that any average-IQ person who manages to get their head out of their own village and compare themselves with others can see how childish and ridiculous what you are saying is. Even if you don’t have the means to experience these things yourself, being the worst team in the World Cup-the sport we care about most-should be enough to make you understand that we are not a "different breed".
I don't need to visit 100 countries to know Turks are simply built different than Arabs.
Palestine = Humiliated

This embarrassment is never going to go away anytime soon.
Israel is not an enemy to underestimate, even the sole fact that they nuclear weapons is enough to be cautious with them. We are dealing with an irrational-messianic bunch with extreme power and connections all over the world.
A lot of words just say please fear Israel.
 

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Haha sorry, I have the same trauma.

It just seems like some people need to be constantly reminded that we are not automatically better than the other people.
I forgive you but only this time,dont bring it up again.
 

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I don't need to visit 100 countries to know Turks are simply built different than Arabs.
Palestine = Humiliated

This embarrassment is never going to go away anytime soon.
"East Turkistan = Humiliated"
"This embarrassment is never going to go away anytime soon."

Why hundreds of millions of Turks are not freeing our Uyghur brothers? I thought we were built different :(((

A lot of words just say please fear Israel.
We should fear them but they should fear us more.
 

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"East Turkistan = Humiliated"
I know. But it's what happens when you have Islamist as leaders, they will do nothing.
"This embarrassment is never going to go away anytime soon."
This is true. Lets hope one day we won't have any AKP like cowards as leaders and maybe we won't have this sort of humiliation. 100% agree.
Why hundreds of millions of Turks are not freeing our Uyghur brothers? I thought we were built different :(((
10 million Israelis versus 500 million Arabs. not the same as 12 million or whatever Uyghurs versus 1.4 billion Chinese.
And Turks have nowhere near the money and resources as Arabs.
But nice to compare, it proves even more how ridiculous the Arabs are. Thanks.
 

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Just a reminder that Turkey allowed US airforce and NATO to operate in it's airspace to track and surveillance Iran in order to defend Israel from Iranian ballistic missiles

How Israel repaid this kindness ? by the latest airstrike near Turkish soldiers
 

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You'll never defeat Israel if you fall into their religious paradigm.

There are 20 million Jews in the world and they all have each others backs. Cracks are showing, and opposition to them is growing, but they're more united and therefore more powerful than Christians or Muslims ever will be.

You're talking about a tight knit ethnoreligious group, that sure, may be split into two groups technically, but are still united. Compare that to Christianity and Islam, that have cast a net over billions of people, many of which have nothing in common.

Maybe this should make you think a little.
 

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You'll never defeat Israel if you fall into their religious paradigm.

There are 20 million Jews in the world and they all have each others backs. Cracks are showing, and opposition to them is growing, but they're more united and therefore more powerful than Christians or Muslims ever will be.

You're talking about a tight knit ethnoreligious group, that sure, may be split into two groups technically, but are still united. Compare that to Christianity and Islam, that have cast a net over billions of people, many of which have nothing in common.

Maybe this should make you think a little.

My experience with jews is they generally love to lie and deceive, their Talmud tells them to do it. Their numbers are probably significantly more then they advertise to the world.

I know in england i've never met a jew who told me he was a jew. Most give themselves anglo names and never reveal themselves, but if you know what to look for you can spot them and there are hell of a lot more prevalent then one would think.

Infact let me correct this, only in london do i see the "religious" Jews open about who they are. Outside of that you could meet a hundred and none would reveal their true identities.
 

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You'll never defeat Israel if you fall into their religious paradigm.

There are 20 million Jews in the world and they all have each others backs. Cracks are showing, and opposition to them is growing, but they're more united and therefore more powerful than Christians or Muslims ever will be.

You're talking about a tight knit ethnoreligious group, that sure, may be split into two groups technically, but are still united. Compare that to Christianity and Islam, that have cast a net over billions of people, many of which have nothing in common.

Maybe this should make you think a little.
You didnt mention their soft power,most billionairs(more hidden the open) are Jewish.
 

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I seriously think if Israel strikes Turkish troops Fidan will go to America. Erdoğan will call Trump. And that's all.

My trust for the Turkish state is at an all time low, how did we get here?
 

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I know. But it's what happens when you have Islamist as leaders, they will do nothing.

This is true. Lets hope one day we won't have any AKP like cowards as leaders and maybe we won't have this sort of humiliation. 100% agree.
Same could be said about the Arab countries. They have secular&nationalist regimes and they do nothing for Palestine. Only ones that Israel see as a threat are the "Islamists" as Naftali Bennett said today:

We will build an alliance of the "moderate forces" in the region against the "Islamist forces"—against Iran, against Qatar, Türkiye, and all the "radical forces."



As for the Uyghurs, the only Turkic country that actually cares about Uyghurs is still Türkiye. None others officially care. They actually side with China.

The clearest example was the UN Human Rights Council vote on Sincan on October 2022. Secular Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan voted against it, effectively siding with China. Türkiye was not a Council member at the time, but supported the motion.

Oh, also our "Islamist" government played a major role to take Karabagh back and they established Organization of Turkic States.

By the way, if Turks are "different breed" why do they keep voting the "coward islamists". Do you actually like the Turks even? It is quite obvious that you despise majority of our people as you keep insulting them.
 

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Same could be said about the Arab countries. They have secular&nationalist regimes and they do nothing for Palestine. Only ones that Israel see as a threat are the "Islamists" as Naftali Bennett said today:

Dude, do you still not realise what everyone is saying yet. It doesn't matter if Arabs are religious or secular, they're Arabs. Islam is like a tool for Arabizing a society.


As for the Uyghurs, the only Turkic country that actually cares about Uyghurs is still Türkiye. None others officially care. They actually side with China.

The clearest example was the UN Human Rights Council vote on Sincan on October 2022. Secular Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan voted against it, effectively siding with China. Türkiye was not a Council member at the time, but supported the motion.

Do you know how immensely lucky Anatolian Turks were to have Atatürk? He's a once in a millenium leader. Sure, the Central Asian Turkic states are weak because they're landlocked, but it's also because they got conquered and ruled by Russians for so long. We didn't have an Atatürk in Central Asia to defeat Russian Imperialism. So of course we're going to be at the mercy of not only Russia but also China. Do you seriously expect weak Central Asian Turkic states to oppose China?

Now there's a historic opportunity to unite the Turkic World and grow stronger together but it's hitting some roadblocks.
 

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Turkey just got humbled in Syria by Israel, again. As if the T4 and Palmyra incident back in 2024 wasnt enough
It is one hell of a slap on the face from Natenyahu to Erdogan

The base was located just 70km from turkish border; where are the AD systems? Where are the radars? Where are turkish fighter jets that ought to counter such attacks; if this was a turkish attack near the Golan heights, then you would have seen 3 squadrons of Israeli fighter jets ready to counterattack

This was a signal by Israel that they wont allow Syria to acquire "certain" offensive capabilities and they are ready to revert Syria to the stone age if needed. In other words, Israel wants Syria weak enough thag when Israel starts to expand, none can go against it
Erdogan couldnt even retalliate back to egyptians what made you think that he can retalliate or hurt israelis?
 
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