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All very well. But does this Unmanned Sea Vessel have room for enough mines to lay in multiple numbers over a large area? In the test they have released a single mine.
I feel like it is best to see Malaman as a loitering torpedo rather than a sea mine that can be mass deployed. With it's 7 sensors, datalink, iff, coating etc it is most likely pretty expensive and won't be deployed in huge numbers.
 

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All very well. But does this Unmanned Sea Vessel have room for enough mines to lay in multiple numbers over a large area? In the test they have released a single mine.
The housing seem to be made for two mines, and not stackable. It is possible that this is intended to replace typical mine laying rails with this automated one, it can be elongated. However, it is not quite low profile for the mine laying operations. It requires a smaller vessel, with lower visual profile, yet the rail configuration doesn't allow this to much.

In my opinion it will be more valuable when they changed from using the gravity, to a push actuator to launch the mine, it will be more useful to stack multiple of these in unmanned underwater vehicles horizontally.

All in all, we should also consider this being the Technology Demonstrator for the concept, it can be reworked on the dedicated mine laying USV, made stackable as well.
 

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Is UCA basically MALAMAN or does it use different sensors and explosive?
AFAIK Akinci should be able to launch them, but only one under its belly.

I believe it is Malaman, without the stealth shrouding.
 

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the thing weighs 8 tons so there is a limit at most maybe a 25 mm
Fnss already shows a 30 mm cannon as I said:

Fire Support Variant
SANCAK RWS- 30 mm Automatic Cannon
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Did ULAQ KAMA vanish or are deliveries classified? AFAIK in 2025 they produced four KAMA for our navy and then no more news.
Kama : Hull by Ares, Electronics by Meteksan
Tufan : Nearly same hull by Ares, Electronics by Aselsan.

In my opinion Tufan has recevied orders and Kama hasn't.
 
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