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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Logistics-wise it is much more pragmatic & rational to have uniform weapon systems. Diversitfication only causes more confusion, delay of supplies, technical challneges and most importantly, budget spending. I understand Indonesia's paranoid over potential sanctions & interventions by the West...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Well that has changed over time as Australia experiences a demographic shift. For instance, many (white) Australian don't mind minorities celebrating Lunar New Year in Australia and they gradually accept it as a social norm. Sure, not everyone in here feels comfortable of it, but many (white)...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Funny, Australian don't think too much of Indonesia unless the people discuss about a cheap holiday destination. Even though Indonesia is a neighbouring country, the public's interest in the country seems to be very low. I can think of only two ocassions that Australian discussed about Indonesia...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    if you want to claim 'ToT was minimal' then you have to bring up something more relevant than 2013 articles as PT PAL built a submarine in Indonesia with ToT that the company received from DSME & delievered the submarine in 2021. Any ToT to make this happen is not 'minimal' by any strech of...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I really thought that it is a minority opinion in Indonesia that DSME-1400 is bad and Korea is at fault for delievering substandard submarine. The recent presidential campaign in Indonesia has made the issue trending on SNS and I have noticed that it is actually a popular opinion in Indonesia...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Good on you for being so determined. There is no point of 'differentiating' in this case. You are still buying more from the same company and the cumulative sum of ToT from the same company would increase both over time & for each procurement program. Of course, it still depends on negotiation...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    That's the very definition of additional procurement of submarine from the same company and I am not sure why you keep digging your own grave. Maybe, you feel compelled to say something, no matter how dumb it is, since you were objectively proven wrong when you absurdly claimed that ToT that...
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    Korea KF-X/ IF-X (KF-21) program

    I am not sure when KF-21 would achieve IOC & FOC. In fact, I don't think I have ever heard ROKAF talking about IOC & FOC of KF-21. Block I is only capable of conducting A-2-A missions with a limited capacity to engage in A-2-G missions. Would this be enough for ROKAF to declare IOC of KF-21?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    (Faceplam) Turkey bought 14 Type 209 and is planned to expand their submarine fleet with 6 additional Type 214 submarines from TKMS. How many did Indonesia buy from DSME (Hanwha Ocean)? 3 with additional 3 is on order. How do you think those acqusition is comparable? That's incredibly dumb. I...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I don't know ANY manufacturer who takes responsibility of alledged problems of own product when a customer doesn't formally lodge a complaint nor claims a warranty repair nor requests refund on the ground of alledged problems and it has not been reasonably proved with factual evidence that the...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Feeling is mutual if this is how Indonesian conducts a business and treats a business contract. Two things are sure - Indonesia will still boast about her capability of building a submarine based on ToT she has received from Korea and Indonesia is still liable for any unilateral termination of...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I don't accept that whatever major problem you are referring to is caused by Hanwha Ocean & Korea. You have zero substantial evidence. Zero. What you should accept is that if what you say is true, then it makes both Indonesian Navy & PT PAL a bunch of fuc*ing cowards who have zero guts to...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Again, Hanwha Ocean & Korea received no formal complaint over whatever the issue Indonesia has with Nagapasa-class. No poor worksmanship. No design fail. Whatever 'damage' you are referring to, you have so far failed to present any obejctive & factual evidence that Hanwha Ocean and Korea are at...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Well, the head of TAI either misled the people or simply lied. However, when the Air Forces Command of Turkey presented a timeline of TF-X development in 2021, it was clearly stated that CDR would be completed in late 2024 and 'First Flight' would be conducted in late 2026.
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Then, please, stop speculating and spreading malicious rumours of Korean submarine. Korea has patiently waited almost 6 years for Indonesia to execute the order for additional 3 submarine. What we DO know is 1. Indonesia received significant ToT from Hanwha Ocean and Korea and built its...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Again, Indonesian representatives are not blaming Korean & Hanwha Ocean for any wrongdoing. What damage? Is it done by Indonesian Navy or PT PAL? You were already wrong when you claimed that ToT from Korea was 'minimal'. I'd be appreciated if you could stop spreading this malicious rumours...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Because CDR has not been completed and (initial) product baseline has not been established. What's point of gathering 'flight performance data' when acceptance criteria for HW & SW has not been reviewed & confirmed? Comparing the date to what? How about risk management & mitigation plan? I think...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Again, I don't want you to claim this falsehood unless you have any substantial evidence. Korea & Hanwha Ocean (formerly DSME) have recevied no complaint over any worksmanship & design done by Hanwha Ocean and continue to provide technical support for their submarine fleet in good faith. Even in...
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    TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I am sorry, but your understanding is incorrect. CDR is conducted to establish a product baseline which is basically used as a reference of final detailed design of aircraft and this applies to not only airframes, but also electrical and avionics subsystems & their integration and implementation...
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    Korea KF-X/ IF-X (KF-21) program

    Not sure if Hanwha has ever developed a 150 gallon drop tank for KF-21. I have heard it is either 370 gal or 450 gal.

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