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    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Hopefully, this will not turn into another Altay tank issue, although if we still trust Germany and make such purchases after everything that has happened, we deserve it.
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    A) to diversify the fleet in order to have transition to Kaan????? Reverse engineering a 4th gen while we design a 5th gen? Sorry bro, but that makes no sense at all. B) ACCESS to western technology? Than why is our goal to get independent? Very contradicting arguments bro. Case is that...
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Yes, nobody argues this. But what has it to do with buying Typhoon?
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    That's a strange contradiction than, to get more independent we move to purchase foreign aircraft to make ourselves more dependent? And what table to sit at? That is also not completely correct, the development system of Dassault was one of the options. There are several design software...
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    What is the most funny part is that I hear a lot of arguments like we need the Eurofighter to counter Rafale. Just LOL! So we gonna purchase an aircraft to use it against and EU country with MBDA missiles etc.? What kind of Einstein does it take to come to such a solution? That is virtually...
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Good you make an analogy with an example Let me counter with a counter analogy, suppose we had purchased American Reaper drones. They are bigger, faster, Americans are virtually the creator of software. Would it have served us better than TB2? If you do not own the tech you can purchase a...
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Nice question, I think it is maybe even the opposite and Hurjet can be even more valuable than an F16 or Eurofighter. We can use the Hurjet in combination with Kizilelma. Having a "loyal winman concept" with a 4th gen. light fighter will make us unique. Will give much much more deterence (if...
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Armed version is highly unlikely while EASA certification of the trainer version still continues. I hope this guy (Tayfun Erdil) is right but first see than believe
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    TR Libya Operations & Updates

    Before shouting betrayel we have some questions to ask: A) Did Italy ever give Turkiye a promise, regarding Libya B) Does having relations with Italy automatically mean Italy will stop pursuing her own interests? C) Did we betray Italy by standing on the opposite side? What I mean to say...
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    TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

    I could add one more: Sold F35's to Turkiye without delivering
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    Yes, sounds likely. Though TF-35k is officially not from TEI but TRmotor, that's why my hope would be TF-20000
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    TEI was hinting on a surprise for IDEF 2025 but that can be TF10000. Hopefully they also work on a TF20000 (just my personal hope, no anything substantial)
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    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Beyond doubt they've shot down one of our drones, Anka I believe
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    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    We can quickly make up when we receive our drones: Akinci, ANKA3, ANKA4, Kizilelma With our drone force we have a strike power that our country has never witnessed (peak power in strike). We have a weapons arsenal that we never ever had before We will have an air defense network as never ever...
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    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    If it was up to me I would not buy any US system anymore
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    TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

    What has that to do with Hurjet? Those engines are interesting for Kizilelma and ANKA 3/4
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    TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

    Whether choosing S-400 before CAATSA was right or not can be debated, but going along with placing S-400 under US care at Incirlik would be a ridiculous step, a harakiri of the brain.
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    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    Depends on how old the F16's are
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    TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

    Only extremely stupid, desperate politicians would accept such an offer. It is a clear trap to block any Turkish BRICS aspirations. I hope we do not have such extreme stupid politicians
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    TR Naval Programs

    Our gezgin will most likely have similar dimensions as the Tomahawk That is 5.56m (6.25 with booster)

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