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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    for cost to benefit approach I think the Arrowhead program most suitable for us if the price competitive enough, build based on IH frigate, flexible based on user requirement, I guess the system not much different with current IH program, but I hope we can get FREMM with Italian specs with...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I hope there is some win-win solution
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    from my asumsion, we try to reduce our share in kfx to ~15% from 20% because the US not share their tech to Indonesia, they only share it to Sokor, and we try to develop our own version in assistance from france, but the korean not agree to reduce our share and negotiation still deadlock but...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    how about patent issue if we want to change the US technology with French technology, are we allow to do that?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    if we can't get the IP right better we pull off from them, can PTDI engineer design their own airframe without help from KAI?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    if china want to control Malacca, they have to neutralize natuna first, but actually there is a cheaper option rather than fight at sea for logistics, they can use Burma as their vassal state to delivery goods from middle east to their mainland bypassing our sealine, if they choose this option...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    how about link16 for our falcon and longbow? is it in DCS or we don't have it?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    some of the poster said we don't have link16, but Afaik f16id has it, isn't it? j20 claim over 4.5gen fighter but suggest us to maximize the sutuc, t50, cn235 for patroling but seems against anything from buying 4.5 gen fighter, he/she stated we never have a change against j20 because we don't...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i'm reading some quora stuff, ended like: wow, some poster seems very know what he/she's doing but there is some mistaken if my memory serve well, about f15ex and rafale procurement, Link-16 in TNI,, at first i think he/she writing it with comprehensive, but eventually some mistake and...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    that's reasonable if french don't want to loose their industrial capacity in their home, maybe if we persue them spare some offset production in Indonesia and India only for limited capacity for both country, that made production faster than centralized in france
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    maybe rafale choosed because french can provide better credit scheme than the US? and don't forget rafale is french state of art tecnology, having them with their meteor are better card than having f16v even f18, not mention embargo history still linger in top brass thinking, imo
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Since we still talk about rafale, we should cooperate with India about rafale supply chains, we can co-op with them in production line, for example if india build the wings then we should build the airframe as ToT scheme, this will make diversity on supply chain not to depend to french...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    idk but I think the navy has unrealistic list, perhaps this list after mef 3 complete, but for how long the list will be fullfiled
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    at least we should build it same size as martadinata class with decent weapon as parchim replacement
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    sorry for my ignorance, but for billions dollar project something smart must be on their mind how to get this contract as soon as possible rather than thinking about top brass health insurance
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    why don't they think outside of the box, if necessary just come to meet in airport sign the document then leave on the private jet
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    any news about heavy frigate contract sign? recent uuv discovery and survey vessel detection is a sign to hurry heavy asset procurement
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    both rafale and f35 are CV STOL capable, my guess LHD will be in order 2024-2029, rafale or f35 can fill the air fighter wing in our LHD, it reasonable if MoD choose rafale if LHD already in his plan
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    while Mr prabs push his agenda on airforce, opung push his part on navy, it will be problematic for logistics, and very unwise decision, perhaps unless the Europe give us access for 6th gen fighter
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i think MoF known between procurement cost and operational cost, but perhaps the operational cost included in lifetime sustainable cost as whole package, but somehow this urge of situation in north natuna made MoF have to agree with MoD

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