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  1. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Nope, I havent seen any lights/hilal from financial perspective for this project. I think the main issue would be if they are willing to do it like Rafale contract model that can only be activated according to yearly avaiable budget. They wanted certainty which our own fiscal system can't...
  2. Gundala

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Wah kalo saya malah seneng kita beli dongfeng ataupun sejenis dari Rusky atau panda. Dari manapun itu walau tanpa hulu ledak nuklir dah bikin lemes yang mau macem-macem. :devilish:
  3. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I suspect thats the original plan, but then budget issues kicks in :LOL:, well we'll see...
  4. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    More likely for comparison and interoperability, too early to tell. Key word here is "The second contract is about layered air defense. The condition of the Indonesian Ministry of Defense is different in this regard. We are developing a new model with our international business partners in this...
  5. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    what he said above, its going to be on a different contract (the kit)
  6. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Fair Indo Defence Expo 2022

    That Rafale is gorgeous looking fighter, tho I like boramae looks better 😁
  7. Gundala

    Indonesia Defence Fair Indo Defence Expo 2022

    Me too, man that Viper looks really good
  8. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    If I recall correctly there would be somekind of a kit converstion to make them able to do MRTT job, perhaps the kit going to be put in a different contract.
  9. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    We cant cancel the contract already signed officially, but I believe the talked already been made to our counterpart regarding this issue. As for why the ambassador say it is related to what happen today where we still in talk with Boeing for the Eagle. Its all about political statement rather...
  10. Gundala

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Perhaps waiting for thhe certainty of the project it self such as design, work sharing, and other project schedule that hasnt been made clear?
  11. Gundala

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Sepertinya semua dah tau kenapanya, untuk audit ga akan pernah kejadian kalau lihat track record kita. Ga cuman itu kok, kayaknya ada beberapa kontrak lain yang sama nasibnya tapi ga di publish, di lain sisi ada yang ga di publish signingnya tahu-tahu ada. Budget lontong kita sepertinya dah...
  12. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    In Indonesian term "Mbulet, mumet, & lom dapet budget" 😁 , well at least the political will is already there Uh yeah, my favourite Air defense system is being inspected 😍
  13. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    I highlight some beyond whats obvious. Political influence - dependency on military equipment and the possibility to influence political decission to favor them Creating USD demand - spare parts needs to be replace, future upgrade need to be done and opening another line of opportunity such as...
  14. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    With all those wish list and on going contracts we have I am not sure how we are going to finance this eagle. I hope MoD, MoF and US can make creative move to overcome budgetary obstacles....
  15. Gundala

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Scorpene/Uboat chancenya lebih besar masuk tahun depan kontraknya menurut terawangan dan feeling saya yang sering salah :LOL: Fremm kandidat kedua, Eagle bakalan close call di akhir term atau disahkan pemerintahan berikutnya kalau yang menang di support dan juga mensupport kebijakan paman...
  16. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Not to mention investment an economic effect as well 😁
  17. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Pengalihan kegiatan PSP for $1.3Bio? Can I say RIP for DSME contract now? 😁 If its already has a green light from MoF then its all in MoD hands now, I hope all goes well
  18. Gundala

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I dont think we would continue the submarine work with DSME. Maybe there are some agreemants between two countries to compensate by doing other project such as additional T50i or something else and agree to put this issue die in cold and in a quiet way.
  19. Gundala

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ini bagian dari negosiasi FIR yang dah selesai kemarin, kalau ga salah dulu kita melarang atau membatalkan kerjasama pakai ruang udara untuk latihan SAF sebagai bagian dari pressure utk duduk bareng ngomongin FIR.
  20. Gundala

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    There are too many variables to count to in this case. To be honest I still doubt about the continuation of F15ID when are still pursuing IFX & Rafale. Tho the previous blue print is for Kupang (new fighters) & Sorong (any avaiable fighters) it can still be changed considering the 14th SQA now...

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