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  1. this is crunch

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Alright, turns out it was quite confusing if we don't properly read and understand this without knowing a bunch of VLS information in general, I'm gonna trying to elaborate and summarize what i just read. 1. VL MICA usually come in single-cell launcher and highly customizeable in number, like...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I totally don't understand how they come up with the number of 12 cell VLS, while the universal VLS holds 8 cell. Say US MK41, Turkish Midlas, European, Russian and even Chinese goes for 8 cell VLS. Unless what 12 cell VLS means 12 single VLS, not 8+4 cells
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Speaking about LPD, if we see on wikipedia, LPD Tarlac and Hospital Ship class on average need about 13-18 month to build each, meanwhile, PT PAL itself said to build AH140 will took about 69 month each. This means recent PH LPD that just begun first steel cutting few weeks ago will finish...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Correct me if i'm wrong, but as far as i know, ever since the begining of the TOT program for both of the LPD and the Light Frigate, we never asked for the rights to produce and sell the product to other country. The PT. PAL's LPD export to Phillipines in 2014 and now 2023, is PT. PAL own...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    madoka never said it was $ 278 mln its was from this even on the latter madoka sent the link mentioning the program costing around $ 1.1 biln
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I dont understand, ever since, i see our navy procurement program is reasonable and understandable. Let's say fact here. 1. Diponegoro class corvette / Sigma 9113 is costed for € 170 mln...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    what drama, was'nt our current AH140 having more drama than those? i would say if the price makes sense, we could go for it, but considering there are already proven old player available, such as FREMM and AH140 we better play safe, but if somehow in the future if our current basic need is...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    @Anmdt is hisar and siper missile can be launch from ship?
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Alright chill down guys, Aussy is allowed to have Tomahawk cruise missile because she is MTCR member
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    so according to him, Indonesia will order 2 different system of submarine rescue from 2 different vendor in UK. Total contract of $170 mln. One is SRVS (Submarine Rescue Vehicle System), the system consist of dedicated mothership integrated SRV installed. The other one is DSRV (Deep...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    is that cat painted? that is one kucing yang tabah, or pasrah(?) 😅
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    off topic It is really interesting to see, that the Canadair water bomber demand highly skilled pilot, actually it is not that surprising, but rather its mandatory. I would say it's fighter skilled pilot on small cargo plane. The video above is 14 minutes long, i suggest you to watch just...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    damn, based on my superability of geolocation, turns out that photo was taken in warkop somewhere near Cibinong. West Java.
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    hmmm its surprising that the rus/belarus(?) power socket looked compatible with ours.
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    PS only got only 2 months away from campaign period before he has to voluntarily lengser from his current position as MoD. A lot of job needs to be done on those short time, seperti yang sebelumnya udah di post, masih ada; - lontong - fremm - awacs - hercs ex-UK - satelit - dan lainnya fyi...
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    For those who still confused Well you can just buy it right away, you just need to be really patient, delivery nya bisa lebih dari sebulan... wajar buat impor dari luar negri
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/8/23/suez-canal-ship-traffic-reported-normal-after-tanker-collision Udah normal lagi lalu lintasnya Iya ya, mentri kalo kunker ke luar negri pake pesawat siapa, B737 TNI AU, charter pesawat komersil ato yang paling masuk akal si ikut naik pesawat komersil.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    even if 212NFS win, i don't think Scorpene will lose, either we go both, or only Scorpene, somehow i think we can't afford to lose the Scorpene.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    germans offer seems nothing compared to these, also, i think it's kinda funny, germany trying so hard to kept the original U212 design and technology, meanwhile italians just offer its for us italian just being italians, mamma mia!

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