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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    walah itu bobot warhead nya jadi makin berat kan, jarak tembak ama proyeksi balistiknya juga berubah, gabakal akurat pake bidikan bawaan, terutama buat moving target jauh, so most likely dipake jarak deket, but still that's
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    PT.PAL go sneaky sneaky huh suspicious...🤨
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    does the AR140 first cutting steel ceremony really ever happened? there is not even single defense blog and news talking about it
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    wow, sending a submarine to other country? that's odd, especially we are not "legally" allied with Australia, wouldn't that be really dangerous since the subs can be monitored and measured via various sensors?
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    euleuh euleuh semoga keluarga di cianjur baik baik aja kang
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    At first i was so confuse, i thought this would be another new contract, but then it turns out to be the later processes of the last year First Steel Cutting. https://www.indomiliter.com/kemhan-dan-pt-dru-lakukan-first-steel-cutting-pembangunan-offshore-patrol-vessel-pesanan-tni-al/#more-81295...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    that's overkill, but technologically and budgetary
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Hmmm but that's already highly unlikely will be introduced to this project, then we'll assume (based on the model ((and if no Brahmos)) , SSM will still use conventional launcher, somewhere above the midship deck
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    could Exocet / Atmaca placed inside VLS? i guess no
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    the only noticeable changes on the hull is the fin stabilizer, the rest are (slightly) similar, should i say Alhamdulillah to this because of several worrying weeks of PT. PAL Mutant design haunting me😅
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    To answer that, we need to understand the condition of our society and economy first. Indonesia's GDP in 2021 reach it's highest with $1 Trillion USD, and Income Per Capita of $4.000 USD, still considered as middle-lower income nation, and not only in statistic, but also in reality is really...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Regarding to number of ship that will be built by or with PT. PAL just doesn't make any sense, 2 AH 140, rumoured 2 SSV for Phillipine, and 2 Fremm Bergamini, with just one 230m ship-assembly dry docks wont be any sufficient to catch up with deadline
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    im aware that Indonesia has thousands of TKI in Taiwan, if i recall a couple month ago almost 300.000 Indonesian work there, this is getting me worried because if the war broke out, our people will directly impacted Im wondering how our Gov't will take response if we have casualties in our...
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    Indonesia Defence Fair Indo Defence Expo 2022

    they're better looking aswell
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    Indonesia Defence Fair Indo Defence Expo 2022

    anyway, i haven't seen any photo from MHI stand, Mogami news never heard again:(
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Our institution should exercise in highest coordination like this too, even tho we have so much experience in disaster relief throughout our country, but having preparedness over civilian building attack is still a new thing.
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Agree, stick to the original design that already tested with the consortium and using armament without any massive modification to the hull system, it will reduce building time thus as the operator will be more confident with proven design. We don't know what problem will occur with this...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    They are indeed "modular" and easy to modified ship, but it's already defiated from the original, let me hear your opinion
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i guess i better repost the pict So that's why, they insisted with 143 meter version, hadeeeh....

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