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If we are talking about Submarine program (i hope we have the money at first place) Naval Group "mau tidak mau" must offer better contender to compete against German Type 214(hopefully type 216) or Japan Taigei(latest soryu class) in future tender. The heat signature in Natuna sea look increased.

Ironically, this KOMCAD armed with compact SS2 wich is more reliable with Pincantiny installed than standard KODAM unit armament (even para raider). I kinda like compact weapon, give more agillity.

IMHO, i doubt US and UK will take the risk to arms Aussie with nuclear (explosion) arms, hence Aussie still recieve first tier weaponery such El-Ra'sam, Tomahawk, stealth fighter & bomber, etc, etc. What more in my considerations is AUKUS aim is to make F-35 like SSN project. One frame for our...

24 + 32 + 16 = 64, Violla, what a coincidence. Thanks Kunming for your incursion in our ZEE. more upgunned stuff will be delivered because China show off

Well, if only France see Indonesia as an potential buyer and partner. And if only France have balls to offer such SSN to 08 directly without this and that limitation perhaps Indonesia will accept it hence with unknown capability to maintenance and pay the boat. If such contract signed within...

AFAIK it was the matter of VLS size and available space in the boat. Take Sylver and Mk41 as example, both has capability to launch SCALP, then both have almost identical space. Different approach will be occur when talking about size of the boat , and VLS mechanism.

Another testbed? I belive It will not going anywhere.

what do you expect from Barracuda class (if possibe) ? She was the smallest among state of the art SSN . 😶 Better stick with japan tech, trust me; they will gave soft loan.

No, french still can go rogue in some country; even if the deal is not so much.

TBH. It will not only a slap, but more like stoned by JDAM. After cheated by Italy in many front, divorced by Aussie, and not clear deal of submarine in Indonesia and Philipine NG had lost big cash opportnity this year.

Well, err, nganu, duhh...... EVEN WITH CURRENT SUBMARINE FLEET, INDONESIAN CAPABILITY TO MAINTENANCE SUBMARINE STILL A BIG RED QUESTION MARK. or even worst, we couldn't afford to pay operational cost. *flies away

ahh, about this one. I really forget it. I hope this is the ship 🇮🇹 build for IDNavy. Well, it will on par with 🇨🇳 main combatant. The signals were strong, but until today no official leaks released.

I believe original Fremm has space for 32 cell Sylver VLS , tho only 16 vls installed. Adding more vls didnt mean add more fang, moreover huge restructurize the ship will be main problem + if they need more space to put another VLS

Put as many armament as Type 52D has and there we goes bump bump party. For consideration, Type 52D has full displacement of 7500 tonnes, packed with 24 x HQ 10 SR-SAM, and 64 Cell VLS filled with SAM and AShM. Not to mention her fixed face radar also put this ship dangerous. And again...

Correct, but as experienced member here once said if our capability of Human Resource is adequate, meanwhile burecratic and bussiness management is chaotic AF. Tho, not only reoganized and more capable HR need to design and build boats, fully reconstructed the company is mandatory as soon as...

It was the bolt, seems derived from Macmillan tac 50. Not sure what kind of catridge to use in this particular gun. There's vast variations of 20 mm wether full power or low power catridges. Hence the kick from that gun will be a benefit for masseur guy. Edit : i just thought it was derived...

To cover from sun and rain, reduce from weary.

no need to panicked, its a daily routine for Indonesian. Beside, your phone simcard company also sell your personal info. Including your location and domicile. Also Goverment : "dat4 k1t4 Aman -4man Aja K0K"

Its a live and death for Stundents and Masseur guy follower.

Did Indonesian side try to get rid off Chinese influention and try to leand towards Elder Brother?