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  1. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Its a test bed and its civilian version that often used by law inforcer ( non combatan ) so yes it is
  2. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    And haveslan had to pay leo becouse of it
  3. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Yes there is will see how the upcome
  4. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Di warning Do not tuch you broke it you " ngijoli " it. And that is just a test platform so
  5. flogger

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Padat karya ..itu ajah operator nya ga tau kl itu civil version and not a military grade...😭
  6. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Wow he took my thought should i sue him for copyright isue 🤣
  7. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    What about 1 garibaldi ,2 fremm ,2 nfs , 2 PPA and, 2 054d ,2 fmp, 2 istif ,wave class its like indonesia carrier batle grup Just put in all rumor together
  8. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well don't take rumor seriously like our old proverbs say's " hura percoyo yen hura ono poto ne " Well at least like ppa ship naming foto lah
  9. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Beter talk with china to i suppose they have more mature on building carrier if china willing to share it with us
  10. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    "Frigate Mboh Piye" LoL🤣🤣 At least lets hope she doesnt follow the fate of maharajalela
  11. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Hope we can get for the best europian,asian..or both euro and asia oh wait they choose to walk away when he speech so euro or asia
  12. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Cipto...🤭 well more we learn more input more devers more technological we can learn for maybe some day we can develop our own with better result we can get
  13. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Say's who..? Rafale a400 m ae kebeli the importent is political will as long as their loan landing available 😁
  14. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Lho maung use their engine wtihout permision difrent case lah What the japanese offer is on par with what they have no downgrade what so efer And expensive.....?? Relatif lah " ono rupo ono rego "
  15. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Should be taken this offer we will get as japanese will get and what japanese get is always top tier stuff
  16. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    And he still "obey" to her so..
  17. flogger

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    I am not a frenchophile nor a turkish hater but exocet are more formidable SSM than Atmaca and taseo mk 2 is to underrated SSM she also outperformed Atmaca not that Atmaca is to inferior SSM but its what its

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