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And to be honest ... My affromentioned scenarios were allready the worst contigency scenario should ever happened to us . And there is nothing more appropriated for an archipelagic nation like us than a mobile hammer and anvil ( hopely the bigger it is in the year to come tho' ) . And between...

Never say never ..... Just like a condom . Better have it then not need it compared to opposite . Look dude .... I agree with you wholeheartedly but we are not the one making the decision here .... Every option and decision has it's own consequences there ... If the top brass think the armored...

Obviously we are coming to different understanding of point if view . Nobody discounting their effectiveness but it's just a different set of priority here ... Didn't we've allready ordered on ukranian neptune ?? Things has been considered it's just the prioritizing goes somewhere else ... For now

Here some food for the thought . Where do you think the PLA would mass their armoured element if they going to rogue and grab for some land ?? The most obvious choice would be kalimantan because java is nothing but a suicidal even for the US standard . Highly urbanized and mass density will...

This a static defense line . More like stalled sea wall tactic line . While leopard 2 were fully meant a thrusting spear to open the breach or mop up straggler unit and we sorely lacking in heavy armoured unit number . And MT has their own uses not a MBT substitute per se . Personally i put them...

Any portable ranged anti-armour and anti air weaponry is a must have item for our grunt so they could be the anvil when get hammered and tip of the spears when we thrusting our advances .. And yet , without an adequate support like a modern CS4IR , logistic and industrial prowes behind the...

My only hope is the Iver program could run more smoothly and on budget so we could gradually upgraded and upscaled the Iver class in batches . Bigger and stronger variant that Could be tailored more suited to our specific need and discretion . Who knows .... Perhaps in the future all the sensor...

Well , babcock aren't really at the loss as yet tho' . Iver programme are still going in strong with PAL involvement . The final configuration hasn't been released as yet . So , don't count any chicken as yet .... And soon " bantingan " will be going in strong !!

Angel iki koyo'e ... ☕☕

Naaah ..... If it wasn't for 08 . There is litle chance fremm get noticed by indonesian public at all . Add that with our dissapointment at Damen side as an impetus for finding a new suplier or else It was the Omega class that would bag this contract . Somehow i'm still imagining about some one...

Mainland steel are come cheaper than us , dude !!

Iver are still going strong ... Where on earth you could find an example where contract are signed and paid yet the final design still haven't been validated as yet ... 😁 We don't know about that as yet ... Things ( final configuration ) hasn't been finalized as yet .... So we are still...

There is a lot of problem to adressed and yet we all know we won't have any answer until later date .... 1 . Otomat teseo vs exocet 2 . Millenium CIWS vs double forty 3 . Thales vs leonardo ... 4 . How much contribution from our local industry to shared Sigh ... And many other to consider ...

It will progressed eventually . Compared to the poland borsuk atleast we are one step ahead of them if we discounting their own indigenous turret . there is so much we could explore from the basic MT hull ... and all the variant we could churned off from it . Metal forging is the only thing...

My only beef on this expansion plan aside from the source of money is how litle concern or attention to the state of our artillery branches . We lacked the ranged unit so much it blows my mind that no body pay attention to elephant in the room . While it was presenting an unique opportunity to...

There isn't any free 2A4 available anymore . Everybody holding it tight as a last resort reserves even as broke as they were . Not everybody as guilible as the dutch do ... Unless we willing to fork some decent money for a used 2A6 better to get a fresh from oven 2A7 instead ...

Isn't the AF are still pitching in for their KOHANUDNAS elements ?? And both make a compelled argument for it too .... Nothing but a fanfare ..... Yet , this is Indonesia Ceremonial matter are part and parcel of life to be had .... Sigh

This could lead to some serious defamation charges isn't it ?? One thing for sure ...... Things are surely akward in the police station these days 😁😁

We are nothing but plebs but jagarin take things too far when he publish/release his own interpretation and conjuction all solely by his own assumption . We all love to gossip and mock each other while silently collecting juicy rumours . but presenting an assumption article to public and yet...

Don't listen to him . Atleast Alman helvas was a former jane associate while jagpan was a pure dreamer . Mind mastubator on stereoid . He is persistent tho' .... 😂😂