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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    If you called that open air prison as a soverign state then we couldn't argue no more ... Sigh
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    And to be honest .... Warkop means for a " warkop " it never a proper place to talk about political issue
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    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    In it's stance the political stance of RI was allready take a midle way as it is . Return to 67 border and working a recounciliation from there . But , the closest one ever to that was the Oslo's accord that never ratified from both side . Make no mistakes both Hamas/Fatah/PLO and Israel were a...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Warkop is mean for a " warkop " it wasn't mean for serious discussion
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    I wish i could responded to this but this is neither the time or place for a proper reply . Why don't you go to palestinian live section ....
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    Those 150 were nothing but a tip of an iceberg . Between them expect atleast 10 midlemen , 5 pure informant and another 20 who offer nothing but courage under the firebreath ....yeah , liqour was the main motivator for the papuans . So , we are basically taalking about mob power here . And for...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    We had too litle combat oriented BKO-forces in the region . Between bloated non combat related personel and Transporting problem it creates too much of time deployment . Too much time in the zone created much of discipline issues aside from fatigues . Not to mention corps rivalries are...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    Lenggen was kind of pattern breaker . Either new wave are coming or some foreign funded agendas were in the mix here ... Either way the new tactician under him are a serious concern for us now .
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    To be honest ... Our Covert ops history in the recent years are kind of " discouraging " to say the least . There is a downtrend in " sophistication " of operation planning and get cruder and cruder by the implementation ... So i rather believe in military ops as of right now ... And now i'm...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    Mob attack in rear area ... The planning and execution was flawless indeed . Their long aim was to bait us for more heavy presence in the rear line while in the same breath easing up the pressure for the highland fighter . And seriously this is worrying . It seem their coordination are getting...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Well , what could i say .... IFV's class were not on the highlist at the moment .
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    Indonesia Indonesian Law Enforcement

    With how our police day to day SOP were " culturized " in such heavy military spirit . Capable was an understatement . ☕☕
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    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    Dude , we treated the East timorese and west papuan as our own with all the bell whistles and everybody get stomped equally during soeharto's . Without land grabbing , their own tribal people holding the day to day administration office and etc-etc . Yet , after the perfect living example of PNG...
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    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    From an Indonesian side of political view . Truthfully , We ain't give a shit about jews or non jew ( hell , we do a lot of clandestine acquisition from them after all ) . It's the occupational/apartheid lines of treatment thing that rubbed us in the wrong way . Contrary to many people believe...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    Well , between taking our product that is in much of reasonable price compared to the Oz one that is no brainer on their part . Else , they could go rouge and take the chinese stuff/expertise and be damned on the consequences .... 😁 All in all ....everybody was happy except for the poor...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    To be honest .... I never mentioned Oz as a trusted partner . But i digress ... Grammar was never my strong suit after all 😁 All in all we could only rely on our self . While in some degree Singapore as a state entity was the closest partner we have . Too much of their bussinessman heavily...
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    Live Conflict Terrorist activities in Papua, Indonesia

    OK . I try to reiterated what i'm trying to convey before things get heated and moved . First ... Let's differentiate between statement from member of state actors and SJW one . While they do overlapped and twisted/exploited sometime . nobody sane enough in the Oz govs today were eager to do...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    You have to differentiate between state actor policy/statement and SJW's noises in the background . Just like every nation every nation has it's own opposition party just the like of us with PKK , Gerindra and PAN's alike ... The last thing they wished to see is Papua new guinea 2.0 . Do you...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    One thing for sure is the navy is definitely the biggest shark among all of those thieving gangs ...

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