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Chinese has already built 2 5th gen fighter jets and their WS15/WS20 jet engines are ready and already in mass production, they already built hundreds of aircrafts prior to their 5th gen fighters. China's industrial capacity is gigantic, of course Chinese fans are going to be more optimistic...

Good, now compare the WS15

UK convinced France for Meteor missile sale but the actual approval of Eurofighter's sale is not even in German Goverment's table yet, since the govertment fell, the approval has not been signed yet. This is a weird situation, i don't know what to say on it.

This is the most possible outcome, i've been very baffled at how people can believe anything that is thrown at them. In the first place, UK needed new orders of EF in order to keep EF production line alive for the Tempest project, so they don't lose both the production line and the experienced...

Ofcourse i know that, he posted 2nd time right after his EF post, without giving more context. Hence my question.

Which rumors and which production line? The production line of EF? How would that be possible?

Biden administration and Pentagon is pressuring Turkish goverment to not further deepen the operations, probably we won't risk anything pre Trump taking office in the East of Euphrates. The most logical operation would be clearing the YPG from Maskanah and Al Tabqah from west of Euphrates...

Even if we forget the Balyun Airstrike, till yesterday when Damascus was about to fall, they were still bombing SNA to protect the YPG, we should not aid them in any way, let these fuckers suffer.

As a person who knows both countries in and out due to me being born in Greece and being raised in Greece plus having ties to Turkey due to ethnicity, all i can say to this guy is that he is salty af. As a person who wishes for both countries to finally start becoming friends by leaving...

I've been watching the events live through twitter since it's start, and all i gotta say is that we are celebrating too early regarding HTS gaining all this territory. For some reason no group is touching YPG militias and let them fallback, Israel is getting ready to create a corridor in Golan...

I hope we somehow assist them this time, either through drones or directly getting involved, because i'm already at my limit on how passive we are since 4-5 years.

Of course that's an assumption, my bad for not stating it. After getting kicked out of F35, Kaan is our only option of getting a 5th gen fighter, and we have to do it "quite fast" since our neighbor is also getting F35s around the planned "first service date" of Kaan. If there were...

Other than the saving money, LM is already full on upgrade kit orders, getting those upgrades through USA would take so much time. Kaan and TF35K is already funded enough, the development part is matter of time and not matter of money, you simply can't speed up the development project by...

What option is out there with RR? If you are talking about EJ200, that engine is designed for smaller and more compact designs, with 20K lbf of thrust, modifying and trying to ugprade/scale that into atleast f110 level would take so much time and cost that it would be better for us to just...

Nope, we are well aware of how much integrated we are in NATO, as i said before too, best of worlds would be us getting F110 engines without issues but again our whole topic is about, what will we do if they decide to not give us those engines? While everyone answers on how hard would be for us...

Ah gotcha, without redesigning no, but there are F110 equivalent of Russian(AL41) and Chinese(WS-10), there are even better engines than F110 that we may be able to get them(WS-15, comparable to F35 engine, that still falls behind of it a little bit). And what does that exactly mean? Did that...

I don't understand what do you mean here, why would we procure or assemble a non-US, ITAR-free interim fighter while we can just buy/import the engine only which we lack of? the only ITAR'able part of Kaan will be F110 Engines. Which we don't even consider of selling the early blocks to anyone...

Which exactly what is Anka-4 is designed/ used to be designed for(since they mention air-air defence, probably?), look at the above table that i sent, you probably did confuse Anka 3 with Anka 4.

One delays the project at most like 1 year or 2, the other delays the project until TF-35K enters into service, which is not predictable and won't be predictable for some quite time. If logistical challenge was a problem, we wouldn't even consider getting Eurofighters, which has one of the...

Do we have any idea on what the aircraft/concept at the top of the table is? For some reason it looks really similar to NGAD(minus the vertical stabilizer/rudder?), could that design be Kaan that is fully planned-optimized for full air superiority prior to us getting kicked out of F35 program...