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?? Is Otokar selling a Chinese truck as her own ?

Yes I know better! BMC got free piece of land in Karasu to build her factory, where is it? They got huge incentives and also the Leopard 2 modernization at the same time that Aselsan got the M60T modernization. Aselsan delivered all the modernized tanks, how many did BMC deliver? Usually if a...

I personally like otokar more than BMC Otokar signed contract to develop a tank and did deliver an excellent tank BMC signed contract to build that tank, now where is the tank? I like professional companies, companies that deliver

What if Japan claim China, or a chunk of it?

Yeah I think we should use that excuse too to get back all former lands

Yeah China is not colonial, they go in and take all. Don't tell me Tibet was a rescue operation.

Not talking about natural resources (only), resource like money. The Chinese state has lot of money.

I don't believe any propaganda, I go and witness with my own eyes. Don't get me wrong, I like Chinese people. Individually the Chinese are nice and respectful people but at government level how the Chinese authorities oppress is not good and I know that even Han Chinese have to be careful not...

Nobody is denying that China made huge construction / infrastructure developments in the past 10-15 years, but that does not mean you treat the minorities well. How Xinjiang and Tibetan peoples are treated I've seen with my own eyes. Not good buddy!

Malaysia, Singapore, even Thailand for a large part.

That's a bit BS, Shanghai, Bejing, Wuhan, Guangzo, Chengdu etc. are the developed parts. Overall all over China is not bad, that I can agree with you

Do we have any good picture of CENK radar? I have only seen on twitter, but than again you can never be sure if that is really the CENK radar or some representing picture. Aselsan has still nothing on their site

Agree, if we were a US no problem.

Please show a source that no treaty can be implement for more than 100 years, I've never seen it.

Yes and no Shape of NS-100 is quite distinctive

I don't agree with nothing will happen if Turkey decides to change a treaty. There are two parties primarily concerned with the free passage of the Bosphorus: 1 Russia, 2 EU (Bulgaria, Romania are both EU members now and the Danube river shipping traffic goes through the Boshporus) So you...

I ask this because there was a render of CENK-S that did look exactly like NS100. The strange thing is that Aselsan did not ever show CENK-S in any fair or even on their own internet site and suddenly there is a radar. To me this gives a feeling that it most likely could be a licensed product.

What annoys me is that there is not one authority with knowledge of treaties who can tell if there is a way to cancel the Montreux treaty. What happens here on forum is guess work. Guessing is not good enough, we need facts. Turkey should be able to generate money from the Bosphorus and not...

Is CENK-S an own product of Aselsan or like Smart-S a licenced NS-100?

Well that would be the dumbest choice, one has to go with standards if you want your missiles to be sold. And those standards have already been set by the US with the MK41VLS. We needs same cell sizes to utilize the maximum possible amount of missile integration. PS we are already following US...