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Baykar does things really fast, it is impressive

Doesn't make sense, why would you use a AB engine or non AB version of it with less power for a 7+ton aircraft, civilian turbofan makes more sense

I was talking about Bl2

it would be pretty nice if TEI got to produce F404s

Guys, what engine do you think TİSU/TİUS will use? 7+MTOW and it is not supersonic with good lift (flying wing) Any ideas?

Well ABM version is said to be an Exo-atmospheric one (Ismail Demir's statements)

6 AMRAAMs are also possible

Ohohoho, nope

Nope, it is not I hope I get to confirm it tomorrow

MIC, absolutely yes AF: Probably no, at least for the 10 years, but we could also say "yes" as it is the start of awakening...

Tbh is F-35 is neither excellent or mediocre, it is the definition of jack of all trades, master of none. But ATM, (at least for US and close allies of USA) it has on of the most complex electronic and sensor suite of fighter aircraft

it's assembled? Also for everyone, I am still waiting for a friend of mine to be free to "tour" TAI

Definitely, altitude and speed comes into role

Depending on the altitude, max range is stated around 70km

I know, but kinematical max range of AIM120B is also around 60-70km

Wowowow let me get this right, Bozdoğan's max kinematic range is not 25km but 60 Ok that's AIM120B levels from a WVR missile, I wonder the 60+km we got for Gökdoğan, maybe it is also the effective range

And don't forget that "unsuccessful TAI"s product did get export success

Does it seem like I am trying to dodge or clutch the discussion, I think not... Actually it might be you right?

Umm, do we really consider supercruise or engine as a factor for 5th gen? Are we claiming that J-20 and F-35 are not 5th gen? Please...

Any ideas? Let's see if it's TF-X, Indonesia wants to "perfect" KF-21 (they will get the 4.5+ version) as it doesn't have stealth functions right now, maybe they would want to get this technology by being a partner in TF-X and also getting their wanted twin engine heavy fighter for their AF