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With that definition, even TF-X will not be a 5th gen until 2035 or so.

KE seems to be mock up and Akin I with SOM

not to derail the thread but that will never happen. Their economy has slowed down significantly and their population is collapsing (being halved in the next 45 years). They, like Japan once upon a time, will disappoint and never take over the US.

Did Selcuk really say that?

Revenue is not registered when deals are signed but when deliveries happen or milestones in production are reached (often with ships). That is why these numbers also can be misleading as Turkiye order books are full

What countries are in respectively the first and second tier? And what is the distinction between the tiers? I would say Turkey is already 2nd tier and pushing into first tier in the next 5 years.

How independent Turkiye has become!

Is the source trustworthy?

who is going to pay for The 6 carriers? carriers are super expensive to build and operate and have little value in Med., Black Sea and Red Sea

The range of Infrared FLiR is limited no?

Can you provide a brief english summary?

Turkey needs to go nuclear. Only in this way, Turkey and her interests will be protected. A few hundred conventional rockets will not do the job.

Yes. But I think that some official source said that they targeted end of this year. Which makes sense, as you don’t want to do the first flight while the entire world is watching you

Wasn’t Hurjet expecting to fly by the end of the year?

What happened in motorcycle?

Probably just bs. US wouldn’t escalate in such a way at this time

Any idea of split between domestic and exports?

time for the UK to put in orders for Turkish weapons. It would boost Turkish exports to the western world.

After an executive from Motor Sich was arrested for being a russian spy - other romours are saying that Baykar has abandoned plans for a factory in Ukraine altogether. I hope it is true.

For TB2, TB3?