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  1. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    This calculation is totally wrong. We know that Bora and it’s derivatives are quasi ballistic missiles. Yes, in order to travel around 660 km in total and achieve an average speed of 4.3 Mach, this missile flies well in to hypersonic speeds in most of it’s trajectory. But towards the end of it’s...
  2. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Your explanation would make sense if it weren’t for the vehicle launch canisters that look square shaped. That canister ; If each were 120cm wide it would mean 240cm overall plus at least another 20 cm gap between them. Then there is all that clearance at the sides. A standard lorry (40 foot...
  3. Yasar_TR

    Forum Announcement Defencehub.com site writers

    Dear Forum Members, As most of you are aware, we have for sometime now, our very own Defencehub.com site up and running and it has been available to all. The site has come alive through the long and arduous endeavours of our administrative team. But it now needs creative and investigative touch...
  4. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    with 561 km With 800 km
  5. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Just check out the weight and the size. That doesn’t correspond with any Bora missile we know. Bora is a 2500 kg missile. Not 3600kg. Unless it is the canister size and weight. Still it doesn’t make sense. A canister that is 120 x 140 cm doesn’t fit! Any ideas?
  6. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    but If you take the red lined ballistic missile trajectory with an apogee of 300 km , total distance travelled will be 1161 km . That would give you about 7.5mach average speed. So, although he is misguided in his assumption, it is feasible within his thought process.
  7. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Depends what you want to use them for. At a lower flight trajectory than a ballistic missile, a quasi ballistic missile can maintain higher speed - even hypersonic - , thus allowing it’s target less time to react to the attack. But this is done at the cost of reduced range. Hence they are...
  8. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    There is one thing we have all overlooked. Tayfun flew for 458 seconds and hit the surface 561km away. But it actually went up ~50km and down ~50 km as well. That is if the top altitude was 50 km. That means it flew 561km + ~100km = 661km in 458 seconds. That makes average speed as 4.3 Mach...
  9. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    It isn’t totally rubbish! 1. Almost all missiles are intercept-able. 2. Don’t believe everything Russians claim about Iskander. Yes it is 90cm diameter 4 ton missile. But it’s hypersonic speed hype is a bit far fetched. 3. Barak 8 is a very modern and specially designed missile, with dual pulse...
  10. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Yes. This type of manoeuvring as well as sideways like Atmaca does.
  11. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Since Tayfun is derived from Bora, it is logical to assume that they are of the same ilk. And they follow similar trajectories. Bora is a Quasi-Ballistic missile. It’s trajectory is suppressed. So should Tayfun’s be. Keeping trajectories suppressed improves the missile’s survivability. It also...
  12. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Speed of Tayfun missile questions The only data we have in our hands of this missile is the fact that it flew for 458seconds the distance of 561km. That gives us an average speed of 3.6 Mach for this missile. A short range ballistic missile of this ilk gains speed and altitude very quickly and...
  13. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    With a diameter of 600mm to achieve long range you need to extend the length of the missile if you can’t improve fuel quality and also decrease weight of the actual missile. We know that Roketsan has been improving fuel quality and use of composite materials has improved weight deficit of these...
  14. Yasar_TR

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    Great news! But I am still holding back until we have the Murad Aesa radar on our first F16. At the moment all these statements mean little. We need action. “Will” , Shall” , “going to” are not enough. Tayfun is going to cause tremors in our enemies hearts. But Murad fitted F16 with extended...
  15. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    As per @Anmdt ’s suggestion regarding carrying a message, I think (2 x280) + 1 means few more things: - If you measure a crows flight distance from Izmir for 561km, it covers the total of Greek mainland, most of their Adriatic waters and more. - +1 also means that It‘s total range is more than...
  16. Yasar_TR

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    That is an average of 3.6mach speed. This sounds like the missile what @Cabatli_TR was mentioning 2-3 years ago regarding a 500+ km range Bora2 that would hit moving sea targets. I guess they made such modifications and alterations to that missile so as to warrant a new name. This would hit...
  17. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Firstly @dBSPL , I think you have shared the wrong source for your post. Something tells me it should be this one. Nevertheless, the news itself is fantastic. That means that we are showing the US the two fingers and getting on with our own modernisation program. However without the Aesa radar...
  18. Yasar_TR

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    The actual anecdote Temel Kotil has shared is very interesting: “Gokbey helicopter‘s transmission needed to be produced. We had to go back and forth many times to Germany to get this produced. In the end when we realised that they were not making the transmission, we manufactured it...
  19. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Modern aircraft injection is a must for our airforce. Like all planes Typhoons have weaknesses and problems. But in essence they are the best 4++ generation fighter jets around in their latest guise being prepared for RAF. If you read the second part of my post #1249 on this page, you will see...
  20. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    It all depends on how much of TFX stealth know how has been shared with Baykar. Delta wing and overall stealthy appearance and flat looking surfaces shout that this is a stealthy plane. I Sunnetci, who has good access to many a secretive information, has stated that “KE should have better RCS...

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