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This is what I gathered from what @Yasar_TR abi and @Anmdt wrote Seems like we’ll have to do with İstif Class until a lighter TF2000 derivative design comes out, IF they decide to do so.

OK @hugh , this one for you

I believe I got my answer. Any in-between class, if one even considered, will be derived from TF2000. Sounds most logical approach when you think about it. Milgem line’s derivatives becoming more and more popular. And now it seems that we might be going for another line of ship, namely TF2000...

@Yasar_TR abi +4 İstif was something that most of us could only hope for and like you said it was a fantastic move. What I keep wondering for years now is, will it perform any given task fleet operations properly while accompanying Anadolu and TF2000? If my memory serves me well, its some design...

Within the last year, IIRC, the idea of an in-between class of 4K-5K hull resurfaced (or that was the impression I got from defense circles). Are there any developments regarding this project or is there even any intension, say like, make a lighter version of TF2000 around 6-7K tons that would...

Honestly, I enjoyed it immensely. They finally listened to aviation enthusiasts for a change. They fed the unfiltered raw engine roar and removed their shitty music library.

Well, they did indeed but as most suspected or should I say feared, just like you, they are keen to establish a puppet Kurdish state as a buffer and pawn which obviously will be done as a reward under the pretense for their “heroic fight” against ISIS and for freedom by the US, and in return...

Well, worst case scenario, the company will agree to a deal. They’ll trade me for one of your ‘victims’ on a neutral bridge at an undisclosed location 😎 On another note, Uncle I’m starting get worried about you and the future of the forum. At this rate, with such rage your blood pressure will...

Masturbating heavily and stoned high while a lobby group holding you on a short leash in a bondage party! American foreign policy 🥳 No porn content can do justice to it.

wow Never realized until I see the same captions With this caption ‘spam’ they look more dependent than independent.

For those fans of timeless art! @Nilgiri ?

Do you mean a joint development between Embraer and Tusaş or a purchase?

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Wait, Armata and Abrams X are fully autonomous?

As a loyal Galatasaray fan, now I will carry my little red book every where that will guide me to socialist agricultural heaven step by step. Oh joy 🤩

And if I may add the fact that unmanned turret was not considered up until war in Ukraine because it was clearly seen that tanks are easily destroyed by various new threats on the battlefield other than classic threats they were designed to face for decades. Fully autonomous tanks are not mere...

Galatasaray Club Chairman Mr. Özbek after meeting and hosting Chinese Ambassador to Turkey at the club facilities where they probably discussed a sponsorship deal with a major Chinese bank.

I think you good point there when you say overestimate ‘cause let’s face it, there are tank haters as much as worshippers . Your second point though, I’m also not sure about it but Western countries already working on unmanned turret tank designs and envision fully autonomous units. We also...

The only work force he is concerned about is pick up truck jobs at giant corporates and miners in PA. Also, as next president’s advisor Musk already dissed and mocked F35 this might be a good idea 😅

Yes we are. As a matter of fact, Turkey literally showcased what modern multi dimensional warfare doctrine can do at Karabagh. However, it was dissed by hesitant, Turkish haters as “poor man’s war”. I think what @Yasar_TR abi means is that, we just can’t call it a day, and say we’re good now...