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  1. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Ge transferred tech to the Swedish Volvo, that is used in the Gripen fighter jet
  2. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    ?? F119 is from Pratt & Whitney not from UK!
  3. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Sure, we always have the risk of embargo on our back. Difference between US and Europe is that Europe only can rely on embargo(es) and we are just handing them over the stick (ironically paid with our own billions) We have to bank on drones so much that embargoes won't have effect anymore...
  4. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Bro, we do not disagree on strengthening Turkiye, on the contrary. Just EF2000 is not the way, it will be a weakening factor because we become so prone to sanctions and deterrence gets nullified. You do not have to describe how treacherous Europe is, I live there! Europe will only be deterred...
  5. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Well I truly hope our MOD does not make the stupidity of the century to buy those EF2000, dealing with Europe will be ten times worse than US. Billions for tincans we won't be able to use All we do will be handing over Europe a big stick to hit us (with sanctions): - you are drilling in Cyprus...
  6. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Who includes them? US? Yeah they can, since their own companies produce them. Name me one country who goes for 5th generation and includes also new purchases of 4th generation. Israel is the only one going for F15EX and that is because of the range, do we get more range with EF above F16...
  7. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    First of all Greece we do not need extra aircraft for that, we can completely disassemble Greece with drones (Kizilelma, TISU) Secondly what is the EU gonna do, with every straining, crisis (I am not even talking about a war yet) we get EU sanctions and you won't be able to use EF2000 due to...
  8. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    And put a bullet into the MMU project We cannot even upgrade the F16's and dreams are there to upgrade EF2000. Allah may save us
  9. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    1) Yes, but we do not have only MMU, we have also Hurjet, Kizilelma, TISU. Getting Eurofighter is not the solution, it's a burden (not only technically but also politically as we know our European friends and their love for sanctions. Don't give them the means!) Suppose we buy today, than it...
  10. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Even if we consider all that true (a bit harsh) than again, Greece has no land forces nor a reliable navy to prevent big losses against Turkiye. They just invest in the air force to have a bit deterrence against us (not the other way around)
  11. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    You simply don't do bazaar tactics from government to government, this is not a bazaar! Who is politicizing it, you talk about it! Pure technically, it is utmost stupid to go for 30 year old ships and we also do not need eurofighters with all the European snub that will come along. There will...
  12. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    We truly do not need enemies, as we are our own worst enemy. Nobody else can weaken the Turkish army as we are trying. News of late make me really worry, what does it mean to get 30 year old British warships? What does it mean to buy 4th generation fighter jets while everyone else are retiring...
  13. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Terrible if true! Total waste of money on 4th generation aircraft
  14. Nutuk

    TR Navy Navy|News & Discussions

    Dumbest thing to do to buy those old ships, ultimate crap
  15. Nutuk

    TR Navy Navy|News & Discussions

    I wish I could answer that but I am not a naval admiral to know in detail the state and needs of our navy. There are two things: 1 Technical aspect I rather see our own indigenous ships than any other ship in our navy 2 Operational aspect, what are the things that we civilians do not get to...
  16. Nutuk

    TR Navy Navy|News & Discussions

    Well if we stay realistic what other alternatives do we have as "good candidate for LHD protection"? We have our 4 Perry's but those have been used very intensive the last couple of years around the Libya issue. Until the TF2000 comes we do need something, so replacing the Perry's with Type 23...
  17. Nutuk

    TR TFX Name Suggestion Dıscussions

    Ebabil kustur, bilmeyen .... Ebabil is a bird of prey, a falcon sort https://www.facebook.com/%C5%9EENER-%C5%9EEN-FUNN-276115629760746/videos/ebabil-ku%C5%9Ftur-gar%C4%B1%C5%9Ft%C4%B1rma-ha-d/549935025523000/
  18. Nutuk

    TR TFX Name Suggestion Dıscussions

    Nope it doesn't, in core they remained Christian. The superfluous window dressing of "converting to Islam" is like those Iranian Mutah weddings
  19. Nutuk

    TR TFX Name Suggestion Dıscussions

    It is according to history books, unless you claim they are false
  20. Nutuk

    TR TFX Name Suggestion Dıscussions

    I take you know that from the 32 Sultans 30 had a Christian mother (30 generations in a row)

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