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  1. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    I think that you would do well to look at Indian news media and forums to get an idea of how much of a shambles Indian procurement is. Why are many projects botched? see above. A couple of examples using what you mentioned: The Marut was designed to be a supersonic fighter to be powered by...
  2. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I think that KF-21 and Kaan are planned for a production rate of 20 a year. If, for example, Philippines wanted to order, would KAI raise the production rate? Same thing could be asked if a country wanted to order Kaan in its early production years.
  3. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Until a contract between India and Dassault is signed including exactly what is required of a new engine, what techologies are to be transferred from Safran, workshare breakdown, cost etc - it's not a done deal. I will not be surprised if CCS approval is stalled until after engine contract...
  4. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I would have thought that Turkiye, with a number of engines planned for the future, might have started a project to build a flying engine testbed. Going back a few years A340's could be bought for next to nothing. PS I believe that an airworthy A340 retired in favour of the much more efficient...
  5. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    In that case it sounds like the company developing the engine will need to buy in flying testbed testing on a foreign OEM's testbed aircraft unless Turkiye wants to develop and build one itself.
  6. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Perhaps this 2028 'fly on Kaan' date means using a Kaan as a flying testbed (1 x F110 + 1 x T35kN)?
  7. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Does anybody seriously believe that Kaan will fly with a domestic engine before the 2030's? The 2028 target is based on what? Optimism of the most extreme order, I think. Or nothing at all - just a convenient, fictitious date. Is there some need to convey the impression that if the US blocked...
  8. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Has the government turned the maiden flight date into a political event or are there engineering reasons for delaying? If timing of the maiden flight is geared to the upcoming election, does every day first flight is postponed delay completion of development by a day? I imagine that development...
  9. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    I believe I read reports that a titanium AMCA bulkead was produced a year or so ago. Does India have a forge capable of making such a component?
  10. Spitfire9

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    You are putting words in my mouth. Why did President Erdogan go to Germany? Was it not in the hope of persuading Germany to lift the block on EF export to Turkiye? How well did President Erdogan choose his words in seeking to reach that objective? Let me know if he succeeded in reaching his...
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    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Regarding Turkiye having an interest in procuring Eurofighter, Erdogan does not seem to know how to talk to Germany unless you deem that launching into a tirade about Israel when giving a speech in Germany is an example of knowing how to talk to Germany. By the way, I think that both Israel and...
  12. Spitfire9

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    In my opinion buying EF2000 would be wise - if President Erdogan has not unwisely made that a very unlikely possibility.
  13. Spitfire9

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    If you can make your own weapons, why buy them? The US, UK, France, Germany, Italy et al can make a lot of weapons but import many weapons they could make themselves. The US has invested hundreds of billions of US dollars in R&D (perhaps many trillions) to become supreme in weapons...
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    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    I believe that the US Congress clears export deals up to a certain value ie $23 billion is the most the deal could be worth, not the definitive contract value. PS I guess that LM will be asking as high a price as they can squeeze out of Turkiye, given its urgent need to strengthen its fighter...
  15. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    @Nilgiri, @Marlii - interesting to hear what you have to say. I am a little confused. If there is no great need for India to acquire a 5G aircraft, why is India looking at paying SAFRAN $5+ billion to develop an engine suitable for use with AMCA? I have no doubt that SAFRAN can pass on the...
  16. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    Because India wants sovereignty over AMCA - no dependence on a foreign engine supplier. It would be better to know that can be achieved (ie a contract with SAFRAN giving India full sovereignty over the engine) before launching the AMCA programme. If a deal cannot be agreed with SAFRAN, either...
  17. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    I read a few days ago that a spokesperson for DRDO or ADA or HAL announced that AMCA would fly 4-7 years after CCS gave the go ahead. Given that almost everything concerning indigenous fighter programmes has been done many years late, my assumption is that date of CCS approval + 7 years is the...
  18. Spitfire9

    India AMCA Program

    Unless I have been misinformed by Indian sources, the design was completed at the end of 2022. It was being forwarded for CDR by IAF. IAF approved CDR early 2023 so the next step was CCS approval. Nearly a year later there is no word of that happening. I wonder if GOI wants to see a contract...
  19. Spitfire9

    India HAL Tejas Program

    Interesting. RR spends more than a billion US dollars a year on R&D and development. As far as I know GTRE has spent less than half a billion US dollars on Kaveri over 25+ years. Unless GTRE tries a lot harder and better, I will not be surprised if an afterburning 80kN Kaveri is quietly shelved...
  20. Spitfire9

    India HAL Tejas Program

    My bad - I thought you wrote EOL. How long will deliberation of quotes take? Any reason not to start work now on getting the afterburner design frozen and tested?

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