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On the contrary, in Syria, Libya and Karabag the UAV's were operational in war and against air defenses. Where manned aircraft could not be risked due to air defenses, drones made the difference

People are quick to dismiss certain warfare option cos in their mind they look up to the US and think: the US is using it this way, this is the best and everything else is not worth to even try out. We have seen all those fortunetellers who predicted that TB2 was no match against modern air...

So much fuss without knowing people think they are expert on everything Fact is that the longest range kill by AMRAAM missile is from a Turkish F16 at a range of 45km shooting down a Syrian Sukhoi jet Having AA missiles on Akinci is more than worth trying out. Without trying out "experts"...

Aside from the effect of having an AA armed UCAV flying in a conflict zone. Turboprop drones will inherently not be fast aircraft, but the Harrier was not either. Nonetheless it was a very valuable asset even used by the US air force. All our assets add +1 to our fighter force

Do you know the Falklands war, in which British Harriers (low speed) easily downed the much faster Argentinian Mirage jets? The British had simply the better AA missiles Mod Edit: Stay away from provocations. Report and don't engage on personal level!

True it can't. Akinci has never meant to be an "air superiority fighter", that's the role of TFx. But Akinci with the right AA missiles is perfectly able to defend herself, as it is the missile that does the job not the platform. The platform is facilitating by carrying the missile and the...

Range of super Tucano, secondly no radar This is actually even a non constructive debate as it is already decided that AA missiles will be part of Akinci. And some guys are still debating whether that can be or not.

A super Tucano does not have a radar, whereas Akinci will (and AESA to be precise) But putting a AA missile on a super Tucano is impractical cos that aircraft has a limited range, AKINCI like drones have quite a respectable range. (you can fly mission in Libya and land back in Turkey). Try that...

That's a bit false analogy, that AIM-120C is not fired from super Tucanos because of speed but because it is impractical and no such demand was placed ever. The second statement to able to launch a ramjet or scramjet you need to be going very fast is also false, the missile simply would need a...

Let me make the first MEME Yorgoooo, where are you? :LOL:

We know it from ourselves, not selling is shooting in own foot. Sell good stuff and more orders will come

Must be a misunderstanding defence minister Hulusi Akar speaks of anti drone systems, not EW systems!

Multi static radar I know, but is the multistatic sonar the same principle? Sonar wafes of one frigate picked up by another frigate???

Greece wants a lot Greece wanted BMP3 FREMM G36 EF2000 But what did Greece get? Nada! Wanting some things and getting them are a bit different.

Scalp naval According to Ibrahim Sunetci Gezgin will have similar round body shape as scalp naval (since it will be VLS launched) but the nose cone of Gezgin looks piramidal like our SOM missile SOM

Whether Greece does get scalp naval / MDcN is a question Whether Turkey get Gezgin is not a question, it's guaranteed!

As long there is no unified European army there is also not much to enjoy, yes you will get "political" support, enjoy.

That I don't know, that why I say it is possible. Todays technology goes so fast that a few years make already huge difference. Take us, 10 - 15 years back we did not build radars, now we build AESA

It is possible what the Russian say, let's not forget that the TB2 is a product of 2015 design. 6 years is not so long but for technology it means a generation. Take Akinci for instance, there is a huge difference in technology in regard to TB2