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  1. Spitfire9

    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    The possibility for greater safety has been available for decades: Israel's withdrawal from areas occupied in 1967 and 1973 and the creation of two states. How much has Israel been troubled by Egypt since Israel withdrew from Sinai? While the Hamas attack in early October generated great...
  2. Spitfire9

    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    One way to avoid al Quds being attacked would be for an independent force to inspect it to check that there is no Hamas bunker under it. A ceasefire while UN inspectors check it out? I suggest - inspect it - if there is no bunker, leave UN personnel there to ensure Hamas does not sneak in -...
  3. Spitfire9

    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    That question should be put to both Hamas and Israeli government supporters. To what extend either of the two parties is responsible for the evil of the last three weeks is debatable. What is not debatable is that they are both responsible for evil actions in the last three weeks.
  4. Spitfire9

    Live Conflict Israel-Palestine War|Regional Escalations

    Many European countries voiced their support for Israel after the appalling acts committed in southern Israel by Hamas militants. In the UK popular pressure is rising against and inside political parties supporting Israel's blockade oo, bombing of and actions involving the Gaza strip because...
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    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Even if the defence budget includes police costs, the 2024 budget is still planned to increase massively. Could some of the increase be so that Turkey's MOD can buy dollars to secure the currency risk regarding the F-16 deal? Any other large procurements that need to be paid in US dollars? I...
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    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I think you need to have the engineering expertise to build aviation standard components to be invited to build components for F-35. What countries in the market for KAAN have the engineering expertise to build components for aircraft?
  7. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Usually if you want a weapons system your country does not produce, you buy it. Why should countries wishing to buy KAAN invest in the programme? Agreed, countries denied F-35 should be interested in the alternatives: KF-21, KAAN, AMCA (excluding Russian and Chinese types). I think that KAAN...
  8. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I read that the defence budget for next year will be increased enormously, to around 4% of GDP. No shortage of funding, it would seem. More, I wonder what it can all be spent on. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkey-allocate-150-more-defense-budget-2024-minister-2023-10-17/
  9. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Thanks to all for all the info. Back to KAAN development, I heard that a different undercarriage was being developed. If that is correct, how far has that progressed? I have the impression that once that is sorted, the prototype will be ready for flight. How many days are usually needed for...
  10. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Agreed. I should have said the value of the funds will be eaten into by inflation. Let us say that in year 1 you budget a billion lira to buy x, y and z in year 2. In year 2 x, y and z have risen 60% in price so they cannot be bought for a billion lira. Inflation has eaten into the value of...
  11. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    When I drew attention to economic mismanagement (eg not dealing with inflation) I was not suggesting that the KAAN project would be cancelled. I was suggesting it would be difficult to find partners who would bring capital into the project. Inflation is 61.5% US$/lira exchange rate was 18.96...
  12. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    The aviation press told me. https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/08/31/turkey-seeks-partners-for-tf-x-fighter-program-amid-fiscal-uncertainty/ PS Something that friendly countries could do is to indicate the level of orders they might place. Non-commital memoranda of understanding would be...
  13. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Annual inflation is reported to be 61.5%. In Europe it is more like 5%. It looks like the government is spectacularly incompetent at managing the economy. Will foreign countries be put off getting involved in the KAAN project? Would I invest in a venture in Turkiye which has an insane level...
  14. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    My apologies. I was confused by thinking that plan was for the engine to be integrated on the KAAN in 2028 and to fly that year. I await seeing what results are shown by the TF6000 when it is run. Just a thought: the KAAN might fly before the Indian AMCA prototype construction and testing...
  15. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Thanks. It is speculative. I think I read it on a forum devoted to Tempest/GCAP. Dating back to 2020 - before the Tempest programme link up with Japan - here is a RR press release webpage which might be of interest...
  16. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Almost no information regarding the Tempest programme is made public. It is speculated that it will be a very large aircraft. It is speculated that electrical power generation will be 400kw. The demonstrator being built may reveal the level of electrical power output. That sounds reasonable...
  17. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Does it matter what the Chinese say? The design is still fluid, so coating the canopy to lower radar return can be done at a later point. I presume that will not interfere with testing the rest of the aircraft.
  18. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    Let's hope that TF 6000 comes good. Doesn't KAAN need an engine producing several times the thrust TF 6000 will produce? ie a very different engine
  19. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I am curious about the upcoming first flight of the prototype Kaan. What systems not required for flight itself will be in the airframe and functional - radar, IRST etc? Given that there has not been a design freeze (as I understand things), I presume that any modifications to the airframe...
  20. Spitfire9

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    I don't know much about the Turkish aviation industry nor do I know much about Turkish foreign political interaction with other states. Having said that, IMO the Kaan project is faced with these problems - US could block supply of US engines, crippling production. That is something that could...

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