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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    I see a lot of your arguments that is like out of the blue, without explanation how 1) It will bring in riches from foreign countries. One of the key points that is doubtful as it is build next to a free gateway called Bosphorus. Hoping that captains are generous enough to take the Paid way is...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    I do not require a long list, give me 5 solid benefits is enough! Putting myself into the shoes of other side is again a partizanship thing, my side it the Turkish state and I do not give a fuck about all the parties. For me this is not a party issue, but an existential benefit or burden for...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    No you cannot calculate everything, if I knew the world will end in 5 months I would quit my job, take a huge bank loan and live the rest of my days like a king. We cannot calculate everything but we have to calculate the basics, did you see any calculation I am not aware of? What we...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    Again assumptions, no calculations. Just betting that things go 100% favorable. And yeah forgive me if I do not have the highest expectation of our government leaving very little profit margin to contractors (who guarantee their investments with minimum passage clauses, that makes Turkey pay...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    Why would charging cause a que? Payments go automatically by bank transfers, all ships who want a passage transfer beforehand the fee, it is not like a gate where cars stop and pay cash. I think this argument is invalid. 2) continues traffic, yes that is a positive thing but why would it be...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    That is also said when building the bridges and highways. Yet there is a reality, no any foreign investor invest money without "guarantees". They will only come and invest when the state takes away risk and guarantees (like with the bridges and highways) a minimum amount of passages and that the...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    What I personally fear (aside the environmental damage, several lakes will be salt water contaminated and Istanbul has already a huge water scarcity problem) this canal will be build by foreign investors who will demand (like with the bridges) a certain amount of ship traffic. All ships that do...
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    TR Turkey expects to lay ground for Kanal Istanbul project in summer

    Seriously who thinks a canal is a good idea? I know there are ideas to alter maybe the Montreux, but why do you need a Canal to alter Montreux? And if Montreux stays than you have a canal where you ask passage toll while a few kilometers further there is a free entrance, doesn't make much...
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    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    That's not only the case for Baykar, no one will have a flying car before 15 years. It is not about the tech to make it fly but all the regulations to ensure safe flights that are non existing. Otherwise the demonstrator of Baykar is already flying
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    TR Propulsion Systems

    This is sad, even Iran has a 1500hp engine
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    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    physics may remain same but there is a thing like aerodynamics, the shape of a plane determines whether it is a fast plan, stable plane, unstable plane or a slow plane with huge lift properties. Think a bit like the paper planes that we all have made when we were kids, fold a plane in a bit...
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    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    I don't know but your "calculations" don't look like calculations but estimations. You assume that TB2 will be more or less the same as TB3. How would you know whether TB3 has not more wingspan and wing area? TB3 which is 2x the weight of TB2 must be different, where does that weight come from...
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    None the less Baykar company has of course some advantages and foreign (example Ukrainian) companies prefer to partner Baykar cos they know there will be some political benefits attached. But that is OK, any company uses political leverage, US companies have complete lobbies in the senate. Some...
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    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    That's a childish Greek origine infographic to make themselves feel good. It is not a secret that Baykar used also OEM products in their design. I mean how smart is it to develop a light bulb instead of using a light bulb that you can buy everywhere. In all products there are some OEM products...
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Oh stealing is OK as long as it is not more than Otokar. and than we ask what is wrong with this country, with this mentality we simply deserve it.
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    It was ASFAT producing the Firtina for $4.2mln. Now they do not even tell at what amount BMC is producing the Firtina, why? It has suddenly become a secret? Same factory, same personnel is producing it under BMC. Can any of you with straight face tell the price is nearly the same or with some...
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    I wonder what these "defenders" of BMC has to answer that a factory of ASFAT is taken en given to BMC. And that factory is producing now the howitzer and tank. What is the plus value of BMC here? They are investing 50mln into the factory while eating up billions, wow what a good deal!
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Why are defenders of this non transparant issue always bringing up Otokar, is there no FNSS and or ASFAT? Is Ethem going to tell what kind of robbery he is doing? SSB is the responsible institution who has to be transparant here, they are the institution who are the purchasing department. Not...
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Oh smart calculus without tender, just to defend a whole process without any transparancy. We have to trust the words of Ethem the saint.
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    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Why should the price be secret (unless a robbery is going on)

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