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  1. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Turkey option would be interesting. They can offer us Leo2a4 upgrade package too
  2. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    pada kabur satu-satu
  3. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    KMW with their Leo 2 is leading I guess
  4. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    But even Soft skinned armor vehicles have pretty nasty auto cannon these days (> 35 mm). The most probable adversary Harimau likely to meet frequently in battlefields are another MPF-like Tanks. I hope we got those Mecar M1060A3 APFSDS-T for real I realize Cockerill 105HP isn't a bad choice...
  5. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    What really happened
  6. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Wah! Dogfight yang seru sekali! Saya sampai tercengang!!!
  7. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Selama lihat diskusi forum tuan rumah sini, emang ada beberapa anggota yang pandangannya rada sama kayak anak trapo-trapo di INA. Tapi mereka lebih pintar dan paham soal militer, itu sih pembedanya.
  8. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Yeah. Bigger isn't always Better
  9. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Up armored hull frontal armor to Level 6 package and use 16 rounds ammo storage for turret.
  10. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Is the turret really the problem here? I mean, It isn't bad actually. We still gonna end up with tall, under armored hull.
  11. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    So, what we gonna do with Harimau now? Keep buying it? Revised the design? Ditch it and buy better med tank?
  12. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Centauro is low profile? What are you talking about? It's much higher than Harimau. If we go with MPF mind set, Cockerill turret is better actually. Its depression and elevation for example.
  13. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    That's because Harimau use Cockerill 105hp turret that need tall hull to accommodate its turret basket. They even need to put "neck" on Leopard 1 hull.
  14. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    Why Army felt enough with Stanag level 5/6 though?
  15. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Yeah. We could go shopping to Turkey for MALE, but HALE? We don't have much choice. Edit: turn out Akinci is HALE, my bad.
  16. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Happy weekend everyone
  17. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Because US UAV works well here and we train a lot with US these days.
  18. Umigami

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Kapan terakhir latgab?
  19. Umigami

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    My complain is its frontal armour is too thin

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